re: What all are you expecting in the first Episode of Season 8 of Game of Thrones?

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Lemons don't grow in Bravos.

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After Qarth it’s the biggest trading port, so who gives a shite. Sansa has plenty of them, and that’s certainly not Lemon country.

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Edt: Also was holding on to the idea that she might be Ashara and Ned's love child that actually wasn't stillborn. That was shot down when George confirmed that House Dayne does not have any blood of Old Valyria.

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Ok, then what’s your point?

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The "Purple Eyes" and her beauty reminding Barristan of Ashara's beauty.

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She’s not Ashara’s child. Dany is well accounted for. I feel relatively confident Ashara killed herself because she informed Ned of Lyanna being pregnant and where they were which resulted in her brother’s death. The Kingsguard there were honest of what was up those stairs and they knew Ned was being honorable only bringing 7 of his closest men instead of an army. I do think “Ser Arthur, The Sword of the Morning, had a sad smile on his face” is very important. He knew his sister ratted him to Ned in a naive hope Ned would spare him, because their discovery was inevitable.

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A lemon tree.

They are growing.

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Someone could have figured out how to grow a lemon tree up there. I don’t find it to be strong evidence. If it was an orchard, then sure, but a single tree, no reason to think a skilled botanist couldn’t do it.

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Someone could have figured out how to grow a lemon tree up there. I don’t find it to be strong evidence. If it was an orchard, then sure, but a single tree, no reason to think a skilled botanist couldn’t do it.

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Citrus requires a different type of climate and longer days. Other characters even state how no trees in Braavos. It is even joked that Braavos is a city full of orange trees (citrus).

It is extremely specific.

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I just think you’re over analyzing things. At worst, Dany remembers things improperly. It doesn’t point to one way or the other if she’s a fake. Personally I just think GRRM didn’t know this.

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Yes, this could be it. I believe this will end of being the case. However, it is specific detail that feels out of place and repeats in the text moving forward.

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Personally I just think GRRM didn’t know this.

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Maybe, but it's not really that obscure. Like how good wine requires vineyards in certain climates. No good wine ever came from England.

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IDK how you figured that out.

If my only knowledge of this world came from the HBO adaptation, no way in hell I could make that connection.

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Good thing the show isn't my only knowledge. This isn't a Hodor thread.

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No it isn’t, and I and many other readers hate this theory more than any other. Tyrion is absolutely Tywin’s son with an alcohol problem and sympathy for the weak. They are dark reflections of one another, and that’s why they despise each other. If Tywin even remotely suspected Tyrion wasn’t his, he would have killed him long ago.

It ruins both of their characters if they aren’t related. It validates every action both of them did to the other if they aren’t father and son, when they should really both pay for what they did to the other. Tyrion if he finds out that Tywin wasn’t his father, it let’s him off the hook for killing him both legally and emotionally and his thoughts would be “Good, just frick him.” That’s character regression. It also makes Tywin’s disdain to Tyrion sane, when it shouldn’t be. Tywin hates Tyrion not because his wife died in childbirth, but because he was a dwarf, and if Tywin has treated him well, he would have been the closest of Tywin’s children. If Tyrion had not been a dwarf, Tywin would not have been abusive of him except when insisting on marriages (which makes him a hypocrite having married his first husband). He would have been Tywin’s favorite son and been ok with Jaime joining the Kingsguard.

Ironically, I don’t think it would ruin things if Cersei and Jaime were Aerys children. It confirms Tywin’s blindness towards his children and it makes complete sense given Jaime and Cersei’s characters. One half madness, the other half greatness. Plus the link between Jaime and Tyrion having killed their own fathers is something GRRM would do. Not to mention it would be hilarious irony that Tyrion would be Tywin’s only biological child.

I also have a crackpot theory that the reason Ser Illyn Payne lost his tongue wasn’t through bad mouthing Aerys, but stumbling into the secret that Jaime and Cersei are actually his bastard kids. He seemingly mocks Jaime in AFFC over his incestuous relationship and his background. It’s certainly possible.

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And many other readers think it makes sense, so...
Have you read The World of Ice and Fire?

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And many other readers think it makes sense, so...
Have you read The World of Ice and Fire?

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I have and it’s a simply insulting theory. Most of the readers on this board are livid that this isn’t true. If you understand story structure and character arcs, you’d understand this would be a monstrous betrayal to both characters. Sorry, but it is a simply insulting theory, and anyone who thinks otherwise doesn’t understand a character arc.

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Good thing the show isn't my only knowledge. This isn't a Hodor thread.

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But that’s the show and sorry, but that’s the only resolution you are going to get.

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Lemons don't grow in Braavos.

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Good to have you here, Preston Jacobs.

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Someone could have figured out how to grow a lemon tree up there. I don’t find it to be strong evidence. If it was an orchard, then sure, but a single tree, no reason to think a skilled botanist couldn’t do it.

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Citrus requires a different type of climate and longer days. Other characters even state how no trees in Braavos. It is even joked that Braavos is a city full of orange trees (citrus).

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This is what I hope the first episode is about.