re: Westworld S2 E10: The Passenger

William dying in the park and Dolores escaping to the real world she knew about are two things that I would have expected both seasons to be leading up to. Which is not to say that I predicted either of those things, I don't really expect the show to follow clean story arcs.

I think the use of flashbacks (or multiple timelines, as some people like to call them), has gotten kind of gimmicky at this point. They're obviously really hooked on Vonnegut and the idea of telling stories out of order for the sake of telling them out of order.

Westworld is probably still the most interesting show on TV for me right now, at least until Thrones comes back. But the Nolans are going to make you sit through their fart sniffing and tributes and homages to all their favorite directors and influences or whatever if you want to get to the end and find out what happened.

Anyway, I think it's great that Arnold's house is still in perfect condition and untouched since his death 30+ years ago.

Season 2 was the Last Jedi bad.

The Riddle of the Sphinx episode was the only redeeming quality.

How did Stubbs know that the Hale that was leaving was actually a host?

He was a host as well.

I'm getting very tired of the gimmicks. Just tell the damn story.

I felt like the convo he had with her was to make you think he was a host but he actually wasn't?

IDK I got no clue WTF is going on

It's not clear if Stubbs was a host with similar programming to Teddy, or a human who was hired and trained by Ford with the qualities that Ford wrote into Teddy?

The only narrative point I could see there was to help explain how Dolores/Charlotte made it past all the security checks.

I do not believe he was a host the whole time. Found this interesting:

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"I really questioned the nature of my reality," Herbers told INSIDER when asked about her first reaction to reading the scene script. "I questioned everything in retrospect for a second. But, from my understanding, everything that happened between the Man in Black and [Emily] prior was real, and he did kill me."

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"Not at all. Not at all," Herbers said when asked if this post-credits scene discounts what we thought knew about William and Emily being human in earlier season two scenes. "I don't think so. Just dramatically it would take away the biggest heartbreak you can imagine [when William killed Emily]." This means the William we saw throughout the season and up until the elevator scene was the real, original William. Him being human for those scenes makes for a more impactful narrative arc. As we saw, the real William was having his own delusions and issues with understanding what was real around him. He became paranoid to the point of murdering his only child — and that reality is far more impactful if it was a true moment.

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There's also a lot of other interesting stuff here:

LINK

Lol it had like 3 different fake out endings. My wife is so pissed right now

Lisa Joy has answered some questions: Deadline Hollywood

William really did kill his daughter in the park. The post-credits fidelity test is in the future.

I find it strange that we saw nothing of William between getting on the elevator and being found alive among the survivors.