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re: Westworld S2 E10: The Passenger

Posted on 6/27/18 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 5:48 pm to
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And I really don’t know how this show is going to be “Westworld” anymore or continue on

Why are you ppl so stuck on the show name? You know it was never just about the romanization of the American West?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 5:49 pm to
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The point is that I was mostly bored and uninterested in nearly every character this season. Akecheta’s episode was one moment of genuine emotional investment ina character in a season that is otherwise devoid of anything that draws you in. 

I hate that episode. It is the bottom 2 for me. IDGAF about the same type of storyline as Maeve.
Posted by Tiny Rick
In a vat in the garage
Member since Jan 2016
1517 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:36 pm to
The crazy part was I was actually happier for him making it back to his wife than I was for Maeve’s kid getting out and their “moment”.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18329 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 1:00 am to
Maybe the season paced better with binge watching or maybe I’m just a super genius - I thought the season was well done and captivating. Some of it was drawn out and much like season 1, Maeve was kind of a waste of time.

From what I’ve read in this thread and threads on Reddit, I didn’t miss anything about the plot or the twists. I did watch the entire season in 3 days though and just finished.

I could definitely see how the multiple timelines storytelling could grate someone’s nerves though.
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 1:01 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
58964 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:32 am to
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Crackpot theory: he killed himself in the tub



Not that crackpot imo. I actually was gonna predict that before the finale. Last episode he hid his card in the book Slaughterhouse Five, which has a famously unreliable narrator—Billy Pilgrim. Hell, the 1st sentence of the book is “All this happened, more or less.” I thought for sure the big reveal was gonna be that William had actually died in the bathtub, but wasn’t able to accept it.

But I don’t think it makes sense to wait until next season to show it, so that’s out the window. We know William is dead at the end. But “when” is that at? And when exactly did he actually die? Or does it even matter at this point?


This may have all been discussed, I’m still on page 3 after finally getting to the finale last night.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
58964 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:01 am to
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Why does everyone get so worked up over someone dying?

You do realize they are coming back the next episode, right?



To me, this is the biggest flaw of the show—we’re just not emotionally invested in these characters. Besides the fact that almost all of them are unlikable assholes, their continuous resurrections make us numb to any perceived consequence they may be going through at that particular moment. I’m sure they wanted us to get the feels when Maeve held everybody up for her daughter to pass, then sacrificed herself. Nope. Nothing. The show lacks heart.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:03 am to
The wrong heart for many people, I find myself pulling for the hosts and love delores.


Season 1 was obviously better but I still really enjoyed Season 2 and its still my favorite show around.
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 7:15 am
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11570 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:18 am to
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I find myself pulling for the hosts and love delores


You're a walking contradiction. You can't pull for the hosts and love the host that wanted to kill them all (and succeeded in killing a lot before the Valley).

It was Valley hosts vs Dolores vs Delos.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:31 am to
Is Lisa Joy hot?
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:35 pm to
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They're in the real world now, so (I think) everything should be presented more linearly moving forward in regards to Delores and Bernard.


Highly doubt it. They will find a way to crowbar the "valley" and skip around from "the real world" as opposed to a simulation of the real world that looks identical but its fake, trust that. They have to have a sense of "wtf" or it isn't westworld.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110664 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:35 pm to
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I hate that episode. It is the bottom 2 for me
Interesting, I thought the Akecheta backstory was one of, if not the best episodes of the entire series.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:38 pm to
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Is Lisa Joy hot?


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This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66377 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:41 pm to
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Is Lisa Joy hot?


nope
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51345 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 1:34 pm to
Yes
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21091 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 12:13 am to
That was another good takedown.

I'm glad someone else brought up the 4 million number. 4 million visitors to an exclusive elite adventure park in 30 years? Yeah, doubt it.

I'm more convinced than ever that Nolan and Joy lost track of their own storyline and were just doing things every week that they thought looked cool on screen.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11570 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 8:14 am to
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4 million visitors to an exclusive elite adventure park in 30 years? Yeah, doubt it.


But it is 6 parks. We don't know the appeal of the others.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110664 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 12:06 pm to
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But it is 6 parks. We don't know the appeal of the others.

Unless my math is wrong, and it certainly could be, that's an average of 60 guests per day in each park.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 3:12 pm to
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How did Teddy drown and make it to the other side? That’s the only question I want answered for now.


She took his brain/ball out of him when he died. Remember the slug she sabotaged MIB's gun with. She got that when she removed Teddy from his body.

She them uploaded Teddy into the program. The guy said the hosts cross over but their bodies don't. That's why the bodies were in the water. they show the bodies falling off a cliff as they cross over to the new world.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 3:18 pm to
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He either knew he killed his daughter or knew that both were hosts. I’m leaning towards the first because they confirmed it by showing her body in the human pile.


The poster you responded to is talking about the scene after the credits of the show. William was given a fidelity test in a lab at the very end of the show.

If your viewership ended with Bernard opening the gate of the place you missed a BIG SCENE of the show.
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