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re: Watchmojo's list of the best films from each year of this century (2000-Present)
Posted on 1/2/21 at 6:42 pm to Lsut81
Posted on 1/2/21 at 6:42 pm to Lsut81
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But most of the list is hot poo poo
Poo poo because the movies aren't your favorite movies, or poo poo because the movies are mostly bad?
The former is reasonable; the latter might not be.
I personally see one of my year-end favorites on that list, but I only see one movie I don't really like. And none of us have seen Nomadland.
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:09 am to TotesMcGotes
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What’s it competing with in 2017?
Logan
Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:18 am to RollTide1987
Not a whole lot of likely ‘all time greats’ on that list...
Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:18 am to RollTide1987
Mad Max Fury Road was hot garbage.
Don't even bother trying to change my mind.
Don't even bother trying to change my mind.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:31 am to Knight of Old
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Not a whole lot of likely ‘all time greats’ on that list...
6 of the first 10 have already cemented such reputations. The Social Network, Tree of Life, and Grand Budapest Hotel are well on their way to doing so.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:54 am to Freauxzen
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Wall-E
One of my favorites.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 10:27 am to RollTide1987
Looks like an IMDB jerkoff list. Hell I wouldn't be shocked if they just grabbed the highest rated film from each year on IMDB.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 10:55 am to 1999
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Get Out maybe the most overrated film of the century.
Get Out suffers from Wonder Woman and Black Panther’s problem.
I really like all 3 on their own merits and will happily watch any of them any time. But critics fell over themselves pandering to say nice things about it to the degree that they’re a bit nauseating to those that just like movies for movies’ sake.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:46 pm to messyjesse
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Looks like an IMDB jerkoff list. Hell I wouldn't be shocked if they just grabbed the highest rated film from each year on IMDB.
I would be shocked. The tastes of IMDB voters are a mix of superhero fans and people from India, so half of IMDB's tastes look pretty similar to the general tastes of this board. See placements of things like Forrest Gump, shawshank redemption, and superhero movies on the Top 250.
But I was curious what pulling the IMDB top rated movie from each year of this century would look like.
Excluding shorts, docs, and performances, because imdb excludes these from its top 250 (though they've allowed Hamilton onto the list for some reason).
* for matching the list in OP
2000: Gladiator
2001: LOTR The Fellowship of the Ring
2002: LOTR The Two Towers
2003: LOTR Return of the King*
2004: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind*
2005: Batman Begins
2006: The Departed
2007: Like Stars on Earth
2008: The Dark Knight*
2009: 3 Idiots
2010: Inception
2011: The Intouchables
2012: Django Unchained*
2013: The Wolf of Wall Street*
2014: Interstellar
2015: Inside Out
2016: Your Name
2017: Coco
2018: Avengers Infinity War
2019: Parasite*
2020: Soul
So, starting with 2005, a mix of "cool" directors (Nolan, Scorsese, Tarantino) and Disney, with a few foreign movies thrown in.
Like Stars on Earth and 3 Idiots are evidence of the power of the South Asian voting base. If you take away those, you'd have There Will Be Blood* and Inglourious Basterds, respectively. Your Name is an anime. Soul is actually behind the Hamilton filmed performance, but I'm not counting Hamilton since IMDB is breaking its own rules by including it.
Eternal Sunshine being the top rated 2004 movie on IMDB surprised me. Assumed it would be Million Dollar Baby or Downfall.
6/21 picks are shared between the lists. 28.57%. Based on these results, I'll go ahead and conclude that the list in OP is not an IMDB jerk-off, and that this board often comes much closer to fitting that description.
ETA: messed up 2019. Fixed movie, which changed the results from just under 24% similar to current percentage.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:14 pm to Jay Are
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5/21 picks are shared between the lists. 23.8%. Based on these results, I'll go ahead and conclude that the list in OP is not an IMDB jerk-off, and that this board often comes much closer to fitting that description.
Damn nice post. I appreciate the work. But are you sure the Top 250 is the best way to collect this data? It has weird algorithms to block things like vote bombs. I believe the decades lists (if they're still around) might be better. I always preferred them.
I just did a straight-up compare between the Endgame and Parasite pages and Parasite is at an 8.6, vs 8.4 for Endgame. Both have 500K votes.
It might not change your results much, I admit.
I do not dispute your allegation that this board is a massive jerkoff.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:19 pm to RollTide1987
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2002- City of God
2003- The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
2006- Pan's Labyrinth
2007- There Will Be Blood
2008- The Dark Knight
2010- The Social Network
2012- Django Unchained
2013- The Wolf of Wall Street
2015- Mad Max: Fury Road
Some of my favorite movies of all-time right here
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:12 pm to RollTide1987
2005: Old Boy/Memories Of Murder/The New World
2010: Inception
2012: Life Of Pi
2013: Prisoners
2017: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
2018: Buster Scruggs
They rest are good enough. Parasite over 1917? I can see both sides but like 1917 better.
2010: Inception
2012: Life Of Pi
2013: Prisoners
2017: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
2018: Buster Scruggs
They rest are good enough. Parasite over 1917? I can see both sides but like 1917 better.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:55 pm to messyjesse
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just did a straight-up compare between the Endgame and Parasite pages and Parasite is at an 8.6, vs 8.4 for Endgame. Both have 500K votes.
Good catch. I fricked that up. I'll double check the rest of my results.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:54 pm to messyjesse
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Damn nice post. I appreciate the work. But are you sure the Top 250 is the best way to collect this data? It has weird algorithms to block things like vote bombs. I believe the decades lists (if they're still around) might be better. I always preferred them
I thought about this. The decade lists can include the docs, performances, and films with much lower vote totals, which I thought would actually skew the results away from the more mainstream tastes of this board.
Going through the decade list for 00-09, it changed the results of 2 years.
2005: babam ve oglum, a Turkish movie that's never been available in the states, but has had an incredibly high imdb rating since some time in 2006
2006: The Prestige. I double checked my intitial data collection. The Departed is higher on the top 250, and the prestige is higher on the decade list. Don't have the energy to fully investigate why, but either way the imdb result is not Pan's Labyrinth.
The 2010s decade list also changes the results for 2 years
2015: Mad Max Fury Road*. This proves one of my assumptions wrong. If I'd used the decade lists, we'd have 7/21 the same instead of 6/21.
2018: Spider-Man into the Spide-Verse. Somehow the decade lists give us even more Nolan and Superheroes. Hard to believe.
So, yeah, using the decade lists puts imdb at 33.3% matching with the list in OP. Still not the jerk-off suggested by the post I initially responded to.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 5:37 pm to Scruffy
Agreed, they should have shown the Army of man united and kicking the orcs arse at Minas Tirth instead of the I Win Ghost army....
Posted on 1/3/21 at 10:16 pm to RollTide1987
Watchmojo has one of the worst ranking systems ever. They are almost the Buzzfeed of movie rankings
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