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re: Watching Lord of the Rings for the first time
Posted on 10/24/24 at 2:53 pm to Locoguan0
Posted on 10/24/24 at 2:53 pm to Locoguan0
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Aragorn was completely changed. In the books, he is setting out to fulfill his life's mission and embraces his legacy. In the movies, he is portrayed as hiding from his legacy.
Agreed on this. But from a movie standpoint, there’s a lot of back story here that would be very difficult to flesh out. Even him not having the shards of Narsil already was a change.
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The ages of the hobbits. Frodo was supposed to be an older mentor for the other hobbits, not a peer
Right, Frodo is 50 when this takes place. Having said that, same as above. Makes it easier for the movie to have them be friends. This works for the most part as far as the movie goes.
It also wouldn’t make sense for Frodo to sit around for 17 years before setting off to destroy the ring
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Gandalf and Gimli's reactions to Moria being flipped. Made no sense.
Minor change, but makes sense in the movie to show Gimli’s emotions and all that
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Getting rid of the rangers. Even the connotation of "just a ranger" for Aragorn, when in the books they were well respected and feared.
Again, something I think works for a movie, plus it makes the main character more “special.”
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Arwen's girl-boss moment.
This actually makes sense in the movie because no one has any clue who Glorfindel is at this point and doesn’t really do too much the rest of this story, although he is one of my favorite characters.
It’s also introduces Arwen and kicks off their love story. And this was 20+ years ago, so it’s not like it’s an undeserved/shoved in girl boss moment for the sake of current day politics.
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Surfs-up Legolas
Couldn’t agree more…but young me loved this, so you shut your mouth!
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Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:05 pm to Laugh More
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There were many changes from book to film, some necessary in my opinion. I’m curious for your examples of cringe.
I know this wasn't directed towards me and I wouldn't call them cringe, but to me there were really only a few that actually bothered me.
1. Complete change in Faramir's character. These are my favorite works of literature of all time and Faramir is arguably my favorite character. So I obviously really like his character. His character was kind of ruined, just not done well at all. Motivations, attitude, dealing with the Hobbits, just everything was done wrong with Faramir. That was by far the biggest offense. To a lesser degree Boromir's character was lessened as well. You didn't feel the love he had for the Hobbits nearly as much in the movies as you do in the books.
2. Exclusion of Glorfindel/making Arwen the hero. I get why this change was made so it's not something I hate on PJ for, it made sense to develop Arwen and Aragorns love story more than the books. But Glorfindel was such an awesome character, it sucked to leave him out.
3. Scouring of the Shire/Saruman's death. Another one I understand on PJ's part but man this would have been incredible to see on screen. People that haven't read the books are really missing out by not seeing this. Also lessons Saruman's death and overall story arc a little bit by way of not having this in their. Never was a fan of the way he went out in the movies.
Numerous other areas I wish they would have stayed truer to the books but those were the ones that always irked me a little. But obviously still 3 absolutely incredible movies.
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 8:28 am
Posted on 10/24/24 at 6:01 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I plan to respond to these and discuss further once the 1 year old goes to sleep.
My biggest take away from changes PJ made, big or small, we’re that they all made sense to some degree.
They were changes to benefit the adaptation, not in service of some modern audience/culture. This is very telling and admirable and a huge reason why these films will always hold up.
My biggest take away from changes PJ made, big or small, we’re that they all made sense to some degree.
They were changes to benefit the adaptation, not in service of some modern audience/culture. This is very telling and admirable and a huge reason why these films will always hold up.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 6:53 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Complete change in Faramir's character. These are my favorite works of literature of all time and Faramir is arguably my favorite character. So I obviously really like his character. His character was kind of ruined, just not done well at all. Motivations, attitude, dealing with the Hobbits, just everything was done wrong with Faramir. That was by far the biggest offense. To a lesser degree Boromir's character was lessened as well. You didn't feel the love he had for the Hobbits nearly as much in the movies as you do in the books
Agreed about Faramir and besides the Scouring, my least favorite change is that of Faramir. I just listened to his part in Towers. He was such an awesome guy.
Disagree with you about Boromir and the Hobbits. He argued with Aragorn about letting the Hobbits rest after Moria, also showed him wrestling and laughing with Merry and Pippin. Sam always distrusted him though
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:43 pm to Locoguan0
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Getting rid of the rangers. Even the connotation of "just a ranger" for Aragorn, when in the books they were well respected and feared.
They’re at the Battle of the Black Gate. It’s who Aragorn refers to when he says “My Brothers.”
Posted on 11/28/24 at 11:11 pm to OMLandshark
Today officially begins the start of LOTR season. Watch the extended cuts with your families this weekend and introduce anyone to the films that has never seen them.
On a cold, holiday-time day/night, it is the best time of year to watch.
Let the magic begin again.
On a cold, holiday-time day/night, it is the best time of year to watch.
Let the magic begin again.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:52 am to Jack Ruby
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Today officially begins the start of LOTR season.
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On a cold, holiday-time day/night, it is the best time of year to watch.
Agreed. Each year I look for a good cold, rainy, winter day close to Christmas when I can take PTO and spend the whole day watching the extended editions. It's glorious.
As others have said, I wish PJ hadn't changed Faramir so much, he's one of my favorites too.
I don't mind the exclusion of Glorfindel, even though he's awesome. They needed to give Arwen more to do and introduce her to the normies.
Denethor is a little too much "mustache twirling evil guy" trope.
But as a kid who read these books for the first time in middle school back in the late 70's to see the opening 20 minutes of Fellowship brought to life so perfectly is a masterpiece.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:15 am to iwyLSUiwy
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1. Complete change in Faramir's character. These are my favorite works of literature of all time and Faramir is arguably my favorite character. So I obviously really like his character. His character was kind of ruined, just not done well at all. Motivations, attitude, dealing with the Hobbits, just everything was done wrong with Faramir. That was by far the biggest offense. To a lesser degree Boromir's character was lessened as well. You didn't feel the love he had for the Hobbits nearly as much in the movies as you do in the books.
I agree, I really liked Faramir in the books vs the movie.
but just because it is different from the books doesn't make it bad, it's just a different version of the story. It worked in showing noone could resist the ring.
It's fine though, the books are still the books and the movies are the movies.
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But as a kid who read these books for the first time in middle school back in the late 70's to see the opening 20 minutes of Fellowship brought to life so perfectly is a masterpiece.
Hell yeah
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 10:16 am
Posted on 11/29/24 at 3:21 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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After I’m done, are The Hobbit movies as good or on par with these 3?
Pretend they don't exist. They aren't even close.
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