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re: Watched The Last Jedi. I don't get the vitriol.

Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:05 pm to
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Here are my thoughts from watching TLJ for the first time since seeing it in the theatre...
Not a bad movie, but a bad Star Wars movie.
I wish they had Luke wanting to train Rey from the beginning, wanting to redeem his screw up with Ben.
Let Leia die, have Poe take her place redeeming himself, have Akbar perform the kamikaze mission.
Shorten the casino mission, make Lando the code breaker that they find in the casino, they don’t go to jail.
Rose sacrifices herself to destroy the cannon, just like her sister sacrificed herself to destroy the Dreadnaught.
Don’t have Snoke die, rework that some how.
I liked the force connection between Rey/Ben, I liked Yoda, I liked Luke’s force projection because it showed how badass of a Jedi he is but don’t have that kill him.

Agree 100%. I just watched TLJ again today. It’s really close to being a great movie. Just these plot points that aren’t good.

I’m not even talking about any SJW stuff which is really negligible to me.
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:13 pm to
I only liked 3 things in that movie. The first scene, Red Guard fight scene, and Yoda telling Luke “Missed you I have”.
Posted by hg
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:17 pm to
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Just these plot points that aren’t good.


Which is the whole movie.
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:30 pm to
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Watched it for a second time on Netflix today. 



Get self owned
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:31 pm to
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The entire sub plot was railing against capitalism, animal cruelty, and slavery.



I may be wrong.... but it seems like you are saying you're ok with animal cruelty and slavery?
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:34 pm to
The worst part about The Last Jedi is the need for a dumb arse childish joke every 5 minutes like they do in the superhero movies. It was almost insulting how childish, poorly timed, and unnecessary the humor was.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:34 pm to
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are saying you're ok with animal cruelty and slavery?



If it serves the film/story, yes.

Schindler's list would have been boring without the camps.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:35 pm to
The Empire did nothing wrong. You can support terrorism if you want, but I stand on the side of stability and order.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:36 pm to
all you nerds seem to forget that all star wars movies suck dick if you really think about it
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:50 pm to
Your mom sucks dick if you really think about it.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 7:51 pm
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 7:51 pm to
my mom died when I was 5
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 8:46 pm to
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So what's your problem with him tossing it away?


Because it’s stupid and snarky. I assume it’s supposed to be a message that we’re taking anything rom the old trilogy and tossing it aside. Luke didn’t have to go Gaga for it, he could have handed it back and said he didn’t want it
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 8:56 pm to
no wonder she didn't move around a lot
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:08 pm to
I guess that was funny in your head
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:09 pm to
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Then it's a problem of understanding, and not experience.
Yours, not mine.

Leia was a standard female trope for the 70's. She even pitches a girly tantrum at the end (the whole incestual nerf herder scene).

All the heroes were men. All of them.

Leia gets captured and then lets men do all the fighting from there on.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:11 pm to
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Yours, not mine.


Oh.

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because of the single scene where she takes a gun and shoots back? 


You said that, not me.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:12 pm to
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You said that, not me.

The one scene makes it more feminist than TLJ?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:18 pm to
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The one scene


Go back and watch it again. Or recite it to yourself or whatever...
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:22 pm to
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Leia was a standard female trope for the 70's. She even pitches a girly tantrum at the end (the whole incestual nerf herder scene). 




Explain this trope.


And the nerf herder scene was in Hoth, in the beginning of ESB.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:27 pm to
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Go back and watch it again. Or recite it to yourself or whatever...
Just enlighten me.

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