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Posted on 11/6/09 at 11:36 am to
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 11/6/09 at 11:36 am to
Top 10 Comedies

1. Dumb and Dumber
2. Monty Python Search for the Holy Grail
3. Spaceballs
4. Caddyshack
5. Animal House
6. Old School
7. Airplane
8. Major League
9. The Naked Gun
10. Coming to America
11. Billy Madison
12. 40 yr old Virgin
13. Blazing Saddles
14. Happy Gilmore
15. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
16. Ghostbusters
17. Blues Brothers
18. 48 hrs
19. Made
20. My Cousin Vinny

I still quote lines on a regular basis for all of these movies!!
This post was edited on 11/17/09 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/6/09 at 8:40 pm to
COMEDIES

1 Raising Arizona
2 Holy Grail
3 Princess Bride
4 Fish Called Wanda
5 Happy Gilmore
6 Blazing Saddles
7 Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle
8 Clerks
9 Animal House
10 Wedding Crashers
11 Airplane!
12 American Pie
13 Kentucky Fried Movie
14 40 Year Old Virgin
15 Caddyshack
16 Christmas Story
17 Princess Bride
18 Bad Santa
19 This Is Spinal Tap
20 Uncle Buck

SCI FI
1 Alien
2 2001
3 Children of Men
4 Brazil
5 The Prestige
6 Dark City
7 12 Monkeys
8 Metropolis
9 The Matrix
10 Primer
11 Invasion of the Body Snatchers
12 Terminator
13 The Fly
14 Clockwork Orange
15 The Day the Earth Stood Still
16 Repo Man
17 The Fountain
18 Akira
19 Robocop
20 Donnie Darko (tho its not really sci fi - I'm throwing it in for its discussion of wormholes)
This post was edited on 11/23/09 at 10:09 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37241 posts
Posted on 11/6/09 at 11:01 pm to
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7 Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle


Interesting pick, unexpected, but not bad at all.

Hmmm, I like to watch how the votes come in...see what the probable number 1's will be, relatively easy to call right now, but you never know.
This post was edited on 11/6/09 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37241 posts
Posted on 11/6/09 at 11:07 pm to
UPDATED

Sci Fi -

1. Alien
2. Metropolis
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
4. The Thing
5. The Prestige
6. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1974)
7. Stalker
8. Blade Runner
9. Children of Men
10. Brazil
11. The Matrix
12. Videodrome
13. The Day the Earth Stood Still
14. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
15. The Terminator
16. Dark City
17. Solaris (1972)
18. Pi
19. Bride of Frankenstein
20. The Truman Show




Top 10 Comedy

1. Monty Python and The Quest for the Holy Grail
2. This is Spinal Tap!
3. Dr. Strangelove
4. Gold Rush
5. Airplane!
6. South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
7. Dumb and Dumber
8. Young Frankenstein
9. Duck Soup
10. Hot Fuzz
11. Ghostbusters
12. Top Secret
13. Groundhog Day
14. Harvey
15. Caddyshack
16. The Life of Brian
17. Best in Show
18. City Lights
19. Ace Ventura
20. Anchorman

Just missing the list: Animal House, Modern Times, Some Like it Hot
This post was edited on 11/16/09 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 9:37 am to
I didn't rank comedies on overall quality, just on how funny they were (well, quality did come into play a little bit). I think Dr. Strangelove is a better movie than just about everything on my list, but as a straight comedy, it ranked in the next 10.

Harold & Kumar is just milk come out of your nose funny. The Neil Patrick Harris scenes are now cliche, but the first time I saw them, I almost died.

I didn't rank Eternal Sunshine on the grounds I don't consider it sci fi. But I love that movie.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59054 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 10:30 am to
Updated

Comedies:

1 A Fish Called Wanda
2 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
3 Airplane!
4 This is Spinal Tap
5 Monty Python's Life of Brian
6 Clerks
7 Stripes
8 Bull Durham
9 National Lampoon's Animal House
10 The Producers (1968)
11 History of the World Part 1
12 Chasing Amy
13 Amazon Women on the Moon
14 Take the Money and Run
15 Fletch
16 American Pie
17 Everything you always wanted to know about Sex*
18 The Blues Brothers
19 Office Space
20 Fast Times at Ridgemont High


Sci Fi:

1 The Fifth Element
2 A Clockwork Orange
3 Minority Report
4 2001: A Space Odyssey
5 Aliens
6 I, Robot
7 Alien
8 The Running Man
9 Total Recall
10 The Terminator
11 The Matrix
12 Planet of the Apes (1968)
13 Blade Runner
14 The Thing (1982)
15 Fahrenheit 451
16 Star Wars: Ep IV-VI (If you just want 1, The Empire Strikes Back)
17 Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn
18 Flash Gordon (1980)
19 Terminator II: Judgement Day
20 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
This post was edited on 11/19/09 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Beastwood
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
1302 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 12:26 pm to
Sci-Fi
1. A Clockwork Orange
2. Terminator
3. Blade Runner
4. District 9
5. Children of Men
6. 2001: A Space Odyssey
7. Terminator 2
8. Aliens
9. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
10. Star Wars IV: A New Hope
11. The Matrix
12. Alien
13. Donnie Darko
14. Back to the Future
15. 12 Monkeys
16. V for Vendetta
17. The Prestige
18. The Road Warrior
19. Minority Report
20. Close Encounters of the Third Kind


Comedy
1. Dr. Strangelove
2. Swingers
3. Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas
4. The 40 Year Old Virgin
5. Groundhog Day
6. Dumb and Dumber
7. Shaun of the Dead
8. Idiocracy
9. The Big Lebowski
10. Monty Python & the Holy Grail
11. Office Space
12. Forgetting Sarah Marshall
13. Hot Fuzz
14. The Hangover
15. Caddyshack
16. Blazing Saddles
17. Airplane!
18. Annie Hall
19. It Happened One Night
20. The Princess Bride
This post was edited on 11/16/09 at 6:05 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59054 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

1. A Clockwork Orange


why would this be considered Sci-Fi? Just curious, would be #1 on my list but I don't think dystopian future = sci fi.
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

I didn't rank Eternal Sunshine on the grounds I don't consider it sci fi. But I love that movie.


It isn't obviously a genre film but I think you have to qualify it as a Sci Fi movie. The cause of the conflict in the film is Lacuna Inc, which uses an experimental procedure to remove memories. I think it is as much a Sci Fi movie as The Prestige as in both a scientific innovation is what sets up the plot of the film.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37241 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

why would this be considered Sci-Fi? Just curious, would be #1 on my list but I don't think dystopian future = sci fi.


Again, we are taking loose genre rules. Star Wars has laser blasters so (as much as it pains me to say) it is a sci fi. ACO takes place in an alternative past/future, so it is a sci-fi.

I would actually consider all dystopian/apocalyptic films to be a sub-genre of sci-fi, but that's me. Usually these movies change something about culture/society which leads to a prediction of things to come. Prediction of realistic consequences being a big part of the non-alien/space side of science fiction.

ACO would be very similar to Brazil, Children of Men, and other movies who are light on obvious "sci-fi" elements like extremely advanced technology, and are more based on a "What if?" scenario. The "What If?" question being central to the science fiction debate often.

This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 2:02 pm
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34451 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 2:12 pm to
So Star Wars is Sci Fi now?!?!

You're killing me.

Now I have to rethink my whole list.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 2:33 pm to
I agree that dystopia is a genre of sci-fi (and my personal favorite). But I think what sets Eternal Sunshine apart is that it is so fantastical, it is not really sci fi, it is fantasy. It’s not really supposed to be grounded in reality at all, its just a way to explore the subconscious. It’s closer to Being John Malkovich or Synecdoche, NY than science fiction (yes, I know those are both Kaufman films as well).
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37241 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

So Star Wars is Sci Fi now?!?!




quote:

Although we will not put limits on what is or isn't a genre fulfilling film (Star Wars isn't a science fiction film), give it some thought at least. Comedies are easy, science fiction is a tough genre though.


You may have misinterpreted. I will edit out the confusion. Sorry, that was meant as an aside, not as a rule.

FWIW, no problem just edit your original post. I hanve't tallied anything yet.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37241 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

I agree that dystopia is a genre of sci-fi (and my personal favorite). But I think what sets Eternal Sunshine apart is that it is so fantastical, it is not really sci fi, it is fantasy. It’s not really supposed to be grounded in reality at all, its just a way to explore the subconscious. It’s closer to Being John Malkovich or Synecdoche, NY than science fiction (yes, I know those are both Kaufman films as well).


And if we were really strict, the current and obvious number 1 sci-fi by my count isn't even a sci-fi considering substance. It is a horror film, so even I am often not a genre purist. The debate is even smaller than Star Wars. I think ACO is more "genre specific" than Alien or Eternal Sunshine.

Which is why I often enjoy sci-fi more than anything else, it combines a lot of elements. Pure drama (Children of Men), Comedy (Dr. Strangelove or Brazil), social commentary (ACO, Brazil, etc.), and pure fun (Body Snatchers)
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 2:44 pm
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

But I think what sets Eternal Sunshine apart is that it is so fantastical, it is not really sci fi, it is fantasy. It’s not really supposed to be grounded in reality at all, its just a way to explore the subconscious. It’s closer to Being John Malkovich or Synecdoche, NY than science fiction (yes, I know those are both Kaufman films as well).


It is close to Being John Malkovich and Synedoche, NY but that is due to it being a Kaufman film. But unlike his other films, there was no magic or fantastical elements that cause the events in Eternal Sunshine to occur. Think of it as the inverse Star Wars. Star Wars tells a fantasy story with the trappings and setting of science fiction whereas ES tells a science fiction story with the trappings and setting of contemporary fantasy/neosurrealism.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34451 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

You may have misinterpreted.
Yes I did. But I won't add it to my list, because IMO, Star Wars isn't Sci Fi.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:16 pm to
Well, what makes Alien such a good sci fi film is that it creates an interesting world grounded in our current reality. They spend good portions of the movie bitching about pay and other such blue collar concerns.

Oops. Getting ahead of ourselves.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59054 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

I would actually consider all dystopian/apocalyptic films to be a sub-genre of sci-fi


That makes sense, and i realized I'm a dumbass, since I included The Running Man on my list , but for some reason wasn't thinking of ACO as sci-fi.

I see the purist point about Star Wars and don't disagree and left that off as Fantasy/Space Opera. If you'd asked me if SW was SF about 5 years ago I'd have said yes, but it doesn't offend me that you and others say its not. I know some people freak out about that.

I was a little worried I would have enough with out SW to make a good list. There are lots of highly praised SF movies like The Presitage that regrettably I haven't seen. (Of course one of the reasons I come to this board is to learn about movies I might not have heard about). so my SF list may be a little more light wieght than some. I will rethink with the dystopian sub genre and may add Fahrenheit 451.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37241 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

That makes sense, and i realized I'm a dumbass, since I included The Running Man on my list , but for some reason wasn't thinking of ACO as sci-fi.


But The Running Man includes some obvious "sci-fi" elements, hence your initial connection with it as sci-fi. Children of Men has no visual sci-fi elements. No laser blasters, no aliens, no advanced technology. Nothing. It's the premise that is purely science fiction.

quote:

If you'd asked me if SW was SF about 5 years ago I'd have said yes, but it doesn't offend me that you and others say its not.


Laser Blasters

quote:

I know some people freak out about that.


People who have a very superficial notion of science fiction. And people who obviously miss the very first frame of the film...Lucas isn't ashamed to set it up as a fairy tale...

"A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."

Ok back to voting....seems a little light on votes this time around.

And I thought the director list would be tough to get interest in.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Beastwood
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
1302 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 11:32 pm to
How many of these voting things have been done on here?

I'd be happy to do a blurb if a movie from one of my lists makes the cut since otherwise I can't guarantee I've seen it.
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