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Unpopular Opinion Alert: Ethan Hunt is a better spy than Bond or Bourne

Posted on 7/5/21 at 11:33 pm
Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 7/5/21 at 11:33 pm
Inspired by another thread but Bourne’s a quitter & Bond let his wife die.

Ethan Hunt is the best spy in the game.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 7/5/21 at 11:42 pm to
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Bond let his wife die



Yeah and spent the rest of his days bedding world class cooz.



Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 7/5/21 at 11:50 pm to
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Yeah and spent the rest of his days bedding world class cooz.



SEC Solomon Grundy,

Yeah and almost of all them die too. Though if I could have spent a night with Plenty O’Toole it might have been worth it.
This post was edited on 7/5/21 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/5/21 at 11:54 pm to
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Ethan Hunt is a better spy than Bond or Bourne


Not a fair comparison. Bond and Bourne are both assassins. Bond sometimes did spy stuff. Bourne not at all, he was just a killer. Hunt is mostly a spy, so since he was the only actual spy, yes he was the best.
Posted by HoboDickCheese
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Posted on 7/5/21 at 11:58 pm to
I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with you because I’m still trying to digest and think it all out but I will add

Ethan had a full team behind him in almost all situations

Bourne was chemically enhanced

Bond had a government behind him and many assets but still mostly played the game solo

ETA: I’m guessing this is a spin-off from my mission impossible thread? A few weeks ago I did a thread Rambo vs Dutch vs the cat from The Hunted and I assumed a lot of people would pick Dutch and they did but I think John J won out with the most picks in the end. I’ve actually been considering a similar thread Wick vs Bourne vs Hunt but minus Wick I think this thread covers the topic
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 12:04 am
Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:08 am to
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Bond sometimes did spy stuff


Navtiger,

I’m willing to discuss Bourne being a assassin not spy, but James Bond not being a spy is a non-starter for me.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:08 am to
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Yeah and almost of all them die too



Is that a glitch or a feature?
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:16 am to
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Is that a glitch or a feature?
After the first one he didn’t give a shite about them as long as the mission was completed
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:22 am to
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I’m willing to discuss Bourne being a assassin not spy


Bourne was 100% only an assassin, that is what the program was for. They were brainwashed killers used by the CIA to kill assigned targets. They were smart and could gather intel on a target or evade capture. But they didn't engage in spy craft.

Bond's 00 designation is his license to kill. He is even called an assassin by several adversaries. I said he did do spy stuff, but he was mostly about taking out the megalomaniacs and banging hot chicks (which only 50% ever survived) First girl Bond beds in a movie will probably die. He spied to get intel on his target, and before Specter i don't think bond ever brought a villain in. He killed them and foiled their world domination plot.

Hunt, is similar to Bond in that his missions are over the top (one might say impossible), but he does more in the spy genre of collecting intel for the purpose of intel alone, or protecting information. He uses disguises and hides his identity (Bond walks in the door in 90% of his films and announces himself as Bond). Yes he sometimes kills the bad guy, but only because he has to in order to stop the world ending device with 1 second left.
Posted by HoboDickCheese
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:26 am to
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(one might say impossible),
That made me laugh, I agree with the rest of your post though
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:33 am to
Bond was the most effective.

I mean, he flew a spaceship without any training into space and foiled a plot to release nerve gas into Earth's atmosphere and kill everyone on planet Earth.
Posted by HoboDickCheese
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:53 am to
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Bond was the most effective.

I mean, he flew a spaceship without any training into space and foiled a plot to release nerve gas into Earth's atmosphere and kill everyone on planet Earth.

He fails in the opening mission of Die Another Day and is imprisoned in North Korea
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:17 am to
Well that's Remington Steele for you.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
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3368 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:27 am to
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Well that's Remington Steele for you.


Goldeneye showed how great of a Bond he could have been, but then they went and poured all the cheese on the rest of his movies.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:35 am to
Well...Bourne isn't a spy.


He's an assassin.


Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71159 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 2:49 am to
Bond is more of an assassin than he is a spy in the movies. Very rarely is he in the intelligence-gathering business. He's usually blowing stuff up, killing evil people, or a combination of the two.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 6:20 am to
Hunt was in jail too. he needed Simon pegg to free him
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 6:23 am to
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Ethan Hunt



Played by Tom Cruise and smokes pole.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 6:41 am to
I don't think Bourne was a spy.

And he also didn't kill all of the people that were attributed to him.
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 6:43 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30353 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 7:44 am to
So the question is, if Ethan Hunt or James Bond were spying on Jason Bourne and Blackbriar and all, would either of them be able to do it through Bourne without being killed by him.
I'd put my money on Bourne taking them out.
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