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re: Two Things That Bother Me About "Titanic"
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:14 am to YumYum Sauce
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:14 am to YumYum Sauce
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sorry, women of the early 1900s, you'd drown on my boat.
potential sig quote from mr YumYum Sauce
no takers?
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:18 am to BeeFense5
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The water was reportedly 28 to 31F degrees that night.
A temp reading 15 mins before hitting the iceberg was recorded at 41F degrees.
Still cold - hypothermia would set being in the water too long and then being wet with the night air.
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 11:18 am
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:29 am to TDTGodfather
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i was dating a girl at the time and we saw that together and that's what i talked about on the ride home. she didn't share my POV. oh well.
2.5 days on boat > 50 years of matrimony. Poor bastard.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:34 am to miamitiger
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One question I have wondered if men would let women and children be on the boats todays time, or does the women equal rights pops up and their asses drown?
They were discussing this on NPR last week.
At that time, the male survivors were shamed when they got home. Different era.
Also, because it took the ship almost three hours to sink, social mores and decorum were able to be maintained, which is why things happened as they did. Another ship sunk around the same time, but because it sank at a MUCH faster rate (like 30 minutes, IIRC), people panicked and the "women and children first" shite didn't fly.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:37 am to RollTide1987
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The problem with women and children first is that the officers on the Titanic took the order too literally. Yes, women and children were to be allowed on the lifeboats first. But if there weren't any around, and only men were standing nearby, the officers were to let the men on the lifeboats. Instead most of the officers manning the boats thought that Captain Smith meant women and children only.
It was the vagueness of the given order that was the problem.
Lightoller on the port side did exactly that.
It was Murdock that was a hardass about it, and he launched boats almost empty if no women and children were waiting to be loaded.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:38 am to BeeFense5
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quote: TITANIC: Crazy old widow disregards lifelong memories of husband, children, and grandchildren in favor of that one time she fricked a bum.
So true!
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:43 am to BeeFense5
Embarrassingly enough, I really enjoy the film. Maybe it's because I really enjoyed the story of it as a child because of all of the rumors and conspiracies I'd read on Encarta during my learn everything I can to ignore the bullshite phase following my parents' divorce or maybe it's because that was the first pair of tits I remember really noticing and wanting to motorboat them. Either way, I've been eating extra steak for years to try to balance out my masculinity.
Onto what bothers me, I agree with the previously mentioned point. I dislike that the high point and her greatest memories were with Leo. I get it, and to an extent, it makes a ton of sense. In a cheesy way, she says it all. He saved her from more than dying on that boat. He saved her from a lifetime of being just a trophy wife with money and shackled in the society that that brought along. She wanted to kill herself, and she hadn't even been through the real hardships of life. Not to mention, you can't get smashed by Leo in a Model T Ford looking vehicle and not have fond memories.
What I dislike is the way they started the sequel, Inception, without ever mentioning the precursor's events. I mean, come on. You can't have me believe that the dude was in the ocean for around 100 years and only aged to 30ish. Not to mention, did Kate Winslet not want to do the sequel or was the choice to replace Rose with Mal just a plot twist? He does tend to pick a lot of the suicidal ones.
Sorry. I just enjoyed the bad joke too much not to abuse it.
Onto what bothers me, I agree with the previously mentioned point. I dislike that the high point and her greatest memories were with Leo. I get it, and to an extent, it makes a ton of sense. In a cheesy way, she says it all. He saved her from more than dying on that boat. He saved her from a lifetime of being just a trophy wife with money and shackled in the society that that brought along. She wanted to kill herself, and she hadn't even been through the real hardships of life. Not to mention, you can't get smashed by Leo in a Model T Ford looking vehicle and not have fond memories.
What I dislike is the way they started the sequel, Inception, without ever mentioning the precursor's events. I mean, come on. You can't have me believe that the dude was in the ocean for around 100 years and only aged to 30ish. Not to mention, did Kate Winslet not want to do the sequel or was the choice to replace Rose with Mal just a plot twist? He does tend to pick a lot of the suicidal ones.
Sorry. I just enjoyed the bad joke too much not to abuse it.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:53 am to Dijkstra
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Onto what bothers me, I agree with the previously mentioned point. I dislike that the high point and her greatest memories were with Leo. I get it, and to an extent, it makes a ton of sense. In a cheesy way, she says it all. He saved her from more than dying on that boat. He saved her from a lifetime of being just a trophy wife with money and shackled in the society that that brought along. She wanted to kill herself, and she hadn't even been through the real hardships of life. Not to mention, you can't get smashed by Leo in a Model T Ford looking vehicle and not have fond memories.
This definitely summed up the movie.
The thing that amazed me the most in the storyline was the amount of time that rose had away from her family and fiancée on the boat. I'm not even talking about when she was sneaking around to see jack. Im talking about how they spent all day together the day after he stopped her from jumping. The fiancée just did not apparently care what she was doing until his security guard saw her getting drunk and step dancing in third class. That was just strange to me.
I never even realized the inception thing. That is really cool.
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 11:54 am
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:57 am to BeeFense5
This one always stuck out to me.
In the famous "I'm flying" Scene, the sunset is to the couple's left. But at that time (April 14) the ship was definitely steaming due West, and the sunset should therefore have been directly in front (or even a bit front-right).
In the famous "I'm flying" Scene, the sunset is to the couple's left. But at that time (April 14) the ship was definitely steaming due West, and the sunset should therefore have been directly in front (or even a bit front-right).
Posted on 4/16/12 at 12:11 pm to Tactical1
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Two Things That Bother Me About "Titanic"
This one always stuck out to me.
In the famous "I'm flying" Scene, the sunset is to the couple's left. But at that time (April 14) the ship was definitely steaming due West, and the sunset should therefore have been directly in front (or even a bit front-right).
Damn filmmakers for those major errors in geography!
Posted on 4/16/12 at 12:13 pm to BeeFense5
I can't believe the old hag threw the diamond in the sea. Wouldn't that diamond have been really helpful to her grand daugher? or charity?
Posted on 4/16/12 at 12:17 pm to Choupique19
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I can't believe the old hag threw the diamond in the sea. Wouldn't that diamond have been really helpful to her grand daugher? or charity?
I was discussing the contents of this thread with someone else eating lunch at work a few minutes ago. He brought up the same issue
It was such a dumb move. She basically proved the "uncomfortable plot line" synopsis of the movie that her two days hanging out with a bum was worth more in her life than her kids and grand kids who came later on.
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 4/16/12 at 12:20 pm to Tactical1
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This one always stuck out to me.
In the famous "I'm flying" Scene, the sunset is to the couple's left. But at that time (April 14) the ship was definitely steaming due West, and the sunset should therefore have been directly in front (or even a bit front-right).
Neil Degrasse Tyson has a funny youtube clip floating around where he ragged on Titanic for claiming to be accurate
One thing that bothered him in particular was in the movie theater version they looked up at the sky and the constellations were entirely wrong (I think he said it was not only the wrong night sky but half of it was just a reflection of the other half).
Apparently he brought this up with the director at one point and there was something of a funny exchange - but when it came time for them to put out a new and improved DVD he got a call from someone involved in editing - asking him for particulars on what the night sky should be for that location etc so they could fix it for the DVD
I know - not quite a CSB
Posted on 4/16/12 at 12:29 pm to Choupique19
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I can't believe the old hag threw the diamond in the sea. Wouldn't that diamond have been really helpful to her grand daugher? or charity?
Not to mention, what a waste for her to throw it there and then that dumbass astronaut went down there, got it, and gave it to Britney Spears' dumb arse, who was wearing a suit made of what I assume were Fruit Roll-Ups. Worst music video ever.
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Neil Degrasse Tyson has a funny youtube clip floating around where he ragged on Titanic for claiming to be accurate
Neil deGrasse Tyson is my hero. My friend and I claim we're going to make a sequel to Saving Silverman with Neil Diamond replaced with Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 12:44 pm to Tactical1
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In the famous "I'm flying" Scene, the sunset is to the couple's left. But at that time (April 14) the ship was definitely steaming due West, and the sunset should therefore have been directly in front (or even a bit front-right).
Posted on 4/16/12 at 12:50 pm to Dijkstra
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You can't have me believe that the dude was in the ocean for around 100 years and only aged to 30ish.
Well, duh, as pointed out earlier, the water was really COLD and so it helped preserve him.
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:10 pm to Dijkstra
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What I dislike is the way they started the sequel, Inception, without ever mentioning the precursor's events. I mean, come on. You can't have me believe that the dude was in the ocean for around 100 years and only aged to 30ish. Not to mention, did Kate Winslet not want to do the sequel or was the choice to replace Rose with Mal just a plot twist?
Because the Titanic was just a dream the whole time.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:21 pm to Dijkstra
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Not to mention, what a waste for her to throw it there and then that dumbass astronaut went down there, got it, and gave it to Britney Spears' dumb arse, who was wearing a suit made of what I assume were Fruit Roll-Ups. Worst music video ever.
"Awww, you shouldn't have!"
Britney must have sold it because I saw it on ebay on sale for $50 the other day.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:16 pm to STERLING
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Exactly. Reminds me of people who complain about movies like Rambo. "That's such bullshite, like 1 dude could really defeat Vietman in a matter of weeks. The American military spent decades over there & lost."
That does bother me though. If you want a fantasy, make it about wizards and shite. Otherwise, it should be at least somewhat plausible, IMNSHO.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:34 pm to BeeFense5
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That is an interesting question. I think that people would be less cordial and gentlemanly nowadays and in the situation of "women and children first", things would get more hostile on a ship now than back then.
Agreed. I was reading up about the Titanic last week and thought the exact same thing. That was a different time back then, and I'd imagine there are far less honorable people nowadays. There would be a riot, no doubt IMO.
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