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re: Treme- 2nd episode tonight

Posted on 4/19/10 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/19/10 at 10:19 pm to
Not sure how everyone claims "cliche" when all these things actually happen in New Orleans. Isn't that what it's supposed to be about?

And all the bitter BR people make me

I guess HBO can make a series about BR, following "We Landed on the Moon", a local chef at Olive Garden, and SFP as the cargo short wearing, up and coming lawyer who prowls the internet looking for babes.

Maybe then BR could get over it's inferiority complex.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288774 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 11:12 pm to
i watched tonight

liked it better than the 1st episode. good to see some action with Lester beating that kid.


maybe a little too much music, but i can live with it.


and Tabasco on eggs is anything but taboo. It's fricking eggs, not caviar or something. putting tabasco on eggs doesnt ruin the taste. even if she is a chef or not. my 85 year old grandma from napoleanville puts tabasco on her eggs still
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28097 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 7:17 am to
ahem. Tobasaco and HP sauce...
Posted by tidefan408
Dothan,Al
Member since Sep 2007
488 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 8:22 am to
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BR could get over is inferiority complex
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Nice thought, but I'm skeptical. By the way, I lived in BR and have friends there, but honestly . . .

And you're right about the "cliches". They provide a sense of place.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 4/20/10 at 8:49 am to
Posted by clooneyisgod
Member since Feb 2006
7838 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 11:19 am to
To everyone complaining about there being too much music, unfortunately for you, that is the show the writers wanted to make. That is literally a primary component to this television show. It's a show named after a neighborhood in New Orleans in which, historically, many native musicians have lived. Thus, it shouldn't come as a surprise to people that the show, at least initially, is focusing on a few local, fictional musicians. It was never intended to be a documentary about New Orleans in which all demographics are represented. You can't watch Seinfeld and complain that the show only features Jerry Seinfeld and his friends. That is literally the show.

If you don't like it, then I suppose you can choose not to watch.

And I put hot sauce on eggs all the time. And the only reason the hot sauce was next to her bed was that the downstairs of her house was not repaired yet. Did you not notice that she was cooking in her freaking bedroom to begin with? She had just met with a contractor or something downstairs before that scene. Let's try not to get too wrapped up in the cliche detective game and judge the show on its narrative, writing, etc...
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:00 pm to
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True, and very few of these people are native New Orleanians. They are people who seem to seek something they consider "authentic" and want to affiliate with it. They find that in the French Quarter. However, it seems that their inclusion (even if it's self-inclusion) makes the authentic thing less authentic.

It seems to me that the French Quarter struggles to hold onto it's historical neighborhood authenticity as it balances the tourist trade (knock one) and the bohemian transplants (knock two). Not that these folks have bad intentions, and they also bring some positive life to the city, but the cultural identity that attracted them seems to be watered down by degrees as their population inceases.


you nailed it. i notice the same thing happening in Greenwich Village and other historical neighborhoods in NYC. well-intentioned, yet albeit cosmetic, individuals are attracted to a neighborhoods history, culture and distinctive character, but in their attempt to immerse themselves in it they in turn dilute the authenticity of the neighborhood because it's impossible to replicate history, obviously, because these transplants weren't involved in shaping and defining a neighborhood that has achieve a somewhat mythical aura in our culture.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23072 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:15 pm to
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And the only reason the hot sauce was next to her bed was that the downstairs of her house was not repaired yet. Did you not notice that she was cooking in her freaking bedroom to begin with?


I posted that earlier. Some people just don't realize what it was like living in a house in the midst of repairing it...
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21390 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:29 pm to
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quote:


True, and very few of these people are native New Orleanians. They are people who seem to seek something they consider "authentic" and want to affiliate with it. They find that in the French Quarter. However, it seems that their inclusion (even if it's self-inclusion) makes the authentic thing less authentic.

It seems to me that the French Quarter struggles to hold onto it's historical neighborhood authenticity as it balances the tourist trade (knock one) and the bohemian transplants (knock two). Not that these folks have bad intentions, and they also bring some positive life to the city, but the cultural identity that attracted them seems to be watered down by degrees as their population inceases.




you nailed it. i notice the same thing happening in Greenwich Village and other historical neighborhoods in NYC. well-intentioned, yet albeit cosmetic, individuals are attracted to a neighborhoods history, culture and distinctive character, but in their attempt to immerse themselves in it they in turn dilute the authenticity of the neighborhood because it's impossible to replicate history, obviously, because these transplants weren't involved in shaping and defining a neighborhood that has achieve a somewhat mythical aura in our culture.


Damn, I just noticed that I use the word "seem" a lot. I'll have to work on that!
Posted by purpleNgoldsaint
Houma Louisiana
Member since Jun 2009
2470 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Also, if I was a tourist and that street performer gave me lip like that I might have punched him in the face (Have you even heard of the 9th ward blah blah blah). There are people like that roaming the streets though. fricking stupid hippies Hopefully, there is a plot line when he gets his arse handed to him...


I want to know what time of year it was where that fricker had to wear a scarf and jacket and the chick had to wear gloves...
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23072 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 2:47 pm to
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I want to know what time of year it was where that fricker had to wear a scarf and jacket and the chick had to wear gloves...


Its December '05 right now on the show
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6196 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 2:50 pm to
that part was definitely accurate. zahn's mom was talking about a freeze then like three scenes later (the next day possibly) women are walking on the street sleeveless and short dress.

now that's december in La.!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 2:53 pm to
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To everyone complaining about there being too much music, unfortunately for you, that is the show the writers wanted to make

which is a fair criticism of the show itself

quote:

If you don't like it, then I suppose you can choose not to watch.

i think it is fair to criticize a drama for over-relying on music. it makes your writing seems sloppy and unfocussed
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 2:55 pm to
on a non-nola-related note, did anybody else see the people from wisconsin the next day and think they had just banged a bunch of h? the makeup person went a bit overboard on teh eyes
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 2:56 pm to
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on a non-nola-related note, did anybody else see the people from wisconsin the next day and think they had just banged a bunch of h? the makeup person went a bit overboard on teh eyes


yeah they looked like they had gone a three-day bender
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6196 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 2:59 pm to
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too much music


quote:

which is a fair criticism of the show itself


that just seems a little too nit picky. like criticizing a show centered around football because they showed too many game or practice scenes.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23072 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 3:00 pm to
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on a non-nola-related note, did anybody else see the people from wisconsin the next day and think they had just banged a bunch of h? the makeup person went a bit overboard on teh eyes


The timeline on that did confuse me somewhat... Were they missing for a whole day or what?? Zahn got fired at noon and then ended up running into them (I know I know huge coincidence) wearing different clothes (Zahn) while they were still in their original clothes... So did he run into them late that afternoon or the next day... I thought it was the next day.

I have to say this though that NOLA is really good at corrupting the naive good goody types like these kids...
This post was edited on 4/20/10 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 3:02 pm to
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The timeline on that did confuse me somewhat... Were they missing for a whole day or what?? Zahn got fired at noon and then ended up running into them (I know I know huge coincidence) wearing different clothes (Zahn) while they were still in their original clothes... So did he run in the late afternoon...


it was the next day because they talked about a good place to get breakfast
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23072 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 3:02 pm to
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it was the next day because they talked about a good place to get breakfast


Thats what I thought, that they basically were MIA for a whole day which IMO explains why they were looking pretty rough. No sleep or shower for over a day and a half...
This post was edited on 4/20/10 at 3:04 pm
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6196 posts
Posted on 4/20/10 at 3:07 pm to
yeah, which was a little crazy that cops and parents were called after they were like 12 hours "missing".

gee, wonder if in a place like new orleans they just didn't make it in yet.
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