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re: Treme- 2nd episode tonight

Posted on 4/19/10 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/19/10 at 12:30 pm to
Overall, I have to say the cliche' things have been to a minimum and when they are used it seems to fit in context (I really don't think anyone outside of LA got the Community Coffee placement).

I was really happy how they toned Zahn's character down a bit from last episode and I really liked the fact that they gave him rich parents (most of these self-righteous types always seem to come from $$ so they don't really know what it means to have to struggle to get by). I thought he was really good in the last episode.

Also, if I was a tourist and that street performer gave me lip like that I might have punched him in the face (Have you even heard of the 9th ward blah blah blah). There are people like that roaming the streets though. fricking stupid hippies Hopefully, there is a plot line when he gets his arse handed to him...

I still think the Mardi Gras Indian and his family specifically his son (kid from Finding Forester) will end up stealing the show...
Posted by PBeard
DC
Member since Oct 2007
5920 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 12:37 pm to
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That Galactic song was shitty. I WANT TO HEAR TIGER ROLL GOD DAMNIT



Sunday araq!
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 12:49 pm to
My girlfriend and I watched the first episode last night. We both spent most of our lives in New Orleans.

We both found ourselves bored. We are going to give the show a chance but the first episode didn't really do much to impress.

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zhan's character

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his character is your typical nola-loving douche


hahaha, yea, I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that. I know people like him, and while they are nice guys, they rarely acknowledge anything negative, or when they do they say some bullshite like how NOLA is great because of its flaws.
Posted by TexasTigah
Houston, TX
Member since Mar 2006
12183 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 1:35 pm to
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Also, if I was a tourist and that street performer gave me lip like that I might have punched him in the face (Have you even heard of the 9th ward blah blah blah). There are people like that roaming the streets though. fricking stupid hippies Hopefully, there is a plot line when he gets his arse handed to him...
Yeah, I found that annoying as well.....No way I sit there and let some douche talk shite to me because I don't know all the facts about a city I don't live in.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21390 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 1:42 pm to
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Also, if I was a tourist and that street performer gave me lip like that I might have punched him in the face (Have you even heard of the 9th ward blah blah blah). There are people like that roaming the streets though. fricking stupid hippies Hopefully, there is a plot line when he gets his arse handed to him...
True, and very few of these people are native New Orleanians. They are people who seem to seek something they consider "authentic" and want to affiliate with it. They find that in the French Quarter. However, it seems that their inclusion (even if it's self-inclusion) makes the authentic thing less authentic.

It seems to me that the French Quarter struggles to hold onto it's historical neighborhood authenticity as it balances the tourist trade (knock one) and the bohemian transplants (knock two). Not that these folks have bad intentions, and they also bring some positive life to the city, but the cultural identity that attracted them seems to be watered down by degrees as their population inceases.

In some ways, I'm talking about myself. My father's family is from New Orleans going back many generations, but he moved out of the city as a child in the 1940's, and I was raised in Baton Rouge. My cultural leanings are probably more country/suburban, even though I love the history of the city. But no one ever mistakes me for a native New Orleanian. My accent is all wrong. I'm not stuck up enough to be Uptown blue-blood (think Jesuit grads) and I'm not colorful enough (think Confederacy of Dunces) to be Irish Channel New Awlee-uns.
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
19483 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 2:01 pm to
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Supporting the local establishments are all fine and good, but it comes off as tacky to do it in an obvious way as they did last night.


I liked the Finn McCool's t-shirt placement.
Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2688 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 2:18 pm to
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again, i understand that. But the obvious ad placement was annoying. They zoomed in on the louisiana hot sauce bottle, they zoomed in on the community coffee cups.
Supporting the local establishments are all fine and good, but it comes off as tacky to do it in an obvious way as they did last night.


You probably wouldn't have even noticed that if you weren't familiar with Louisiana. When I watched The Wire, I probably missed a lot of things like that were unique to Baltimore.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 2:19 pm to
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i'm glad you see my point. The only time i listen to "New Orleans-esque" type music is Mardi Gras time. I like Jazz, but New Orleans jazz isn't my type of thing. The 1st episode the music wasn't too bad. But this episode was too much music. I want to watch a tv show, not a concert. A little is fine, but i feel they are focusing too hard on the music, that it's actually taking away from the show.



See I disagree. I love the music the most and the main reason I keep watching.


A few things:

1. Zahn said L-"ESS"-U instead of ELLESHOE. Bothered me.

2. I really hope that dude eats his girlfriend and jumps out the window.

3. I thought the Galactic appearance was really cool as I have seen them probably over 100 times and hung out with them a few times. Also I loved how the black guys described them as "white boys that can get down".

4. I hated Chief in the first episode, but he is growing on me.

5. Zahn's character has serious potential.

6. Khandi Alexander is almost insufferable.

7. I can relate to Goodman's daughter and Goodman. I was a high school senior in Baton Rouge when Katrina hit and my brother was in Law School at Tulane.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 2:41 pm to
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Zahn's character has serious potential.

at being a douche?

i hate this character with all my heart and soul

i don't get what redeeming quality he has
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 2:47 pm to
Not that I like him, but he is playing the perfect stuck-up, biased, ignorant, naive New Orleanian. You know the ones that refuse to admit the city has any problems but the police brutality?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 3:34 pm to
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but he is playing the perfect stuck-up, biased, ignorant, naive New Orleanian

oh ok

i agree 100% then

i just misunderstood you

john goodman is playing an absolute a-hole as well
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 3:37 pm to
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john goodman is playing an absolute a-hole as well



yep. Tulane snob. I would know one too, as my brother and father went to Law school there and all of my relatives in NO went to undergrad there. They all think their shite don't stink. Funny thing is Tulane is not very local at all. It's full of northerners that couldn't get into Ivy League schools.
This post was edited on 4/19/10 at 3:39 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 3:41 pm to
well he's the "intellectual/upper-middle class" new orleans douche.

he's essentially zhan's character...if he won the lottery
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120223 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 3:42 pm to
i'm not sure why anyone here would think simon is trying to bring a racist sterotype to the NOPD considering blacks RUN the department and he probably knows that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 3:45 pm to
a guy on the poli board last week said nola sucked b/c of racism, even though all forms of gov't were controlled by blacks
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4519 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 3:48 pm to
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Reading this thread makes me think that New Orleanians are more sensitive about being stereotyped than any group I've ever seen.


If you notice, 90% of those crying sterotypes aren't New Orleaneans. I am not going to bitch about them not having the right to bitch because they aren't locals... But I do find that a bit weird.

New Orleans has a lot of crazy shite that doesn't happen anywhere else. To cry "CLICHE" everytime one of those happenstances are over played is stupid. Enjoy the well written, uniquely set TV show already.
Posted by tidefan408
Dothan,Al
Member since Sep 2007
488 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 3:50 pm to
NOLA has racial problems on both sides. White cops fricking with black citizens. Black cops fricking with white citizens. Some . . . not all . . . black politicians play the "mau mau" card even though they control City Hall.

Recent events suggest that the general population, both black and white, have had a gut full of it,though. That's a good thing.
Posted by tidefan408
Dothan,Al
Member since Sep 2007
488 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 3:52 pm to
Good point about the cliche'. If you eliminate everything that could be considered cliche', you could set this fricker in Dallas or Kansas City.
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5406 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 8:00 pm to
Well it is really hard to not over react to local stuff, because we have only seen them get it so wrong so many times. The best/worst being "The Big Easy," where they all had cajun accents, couldn't go outside without running into a parade, could go three blocks from down town and be in the swamp etc.
I find myself screaming bullshite over the hot sauce on the eggs, and then I go, "wait a minute."

I love that Deadwood girl. As someone said earlier, she is like the perfect amount of attractive. I was cringing when she was asking her folks for more money. Zahn was less bothersome. It is getter better. I am getting better by not screaming bullshite over every slightly false note, because as Simon said, "At the end of the day we were just people sitting in a room making stuff up."
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
42638 posts
Posted on 4/19/10 at 9:00 pm to
'Well, you walk out of our front door.. ..... ...you see, that's why its called the Inn on Bourbon'

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