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Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:24 am to

María Aura did it for me in Y tu mamá también
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 2:03 pm to
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Harry Potter gets extremely dark towards the later books and even films.


I've been reading the books to my 3 year old and when I got to the end of Goblet I had to do some serious editorial maneuvers to make the ending make sense w/o telling my boy Cedric was murdered and Wormtail cut off his own hand. As of now Avada Kadavra is a curse that makes you take a 50 year nap.
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 2:16 pm to
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Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 2:17 pm to
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Andrew Yates is a whore that will film anything he is requested to film.


David

He made an unreadable slog of a book a good movie in order of the Phoenix. I agree that half blood prince was bad. The first Deathly Hallows also made a watchable film out of a trash half of a novel. He went 2 for 4. The rest of the hp series went 1 for 4.

And I'd rather Children of Men and Gravity exist than the Harry potter films be slightly better than they were.
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 2:21 pm to
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Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:46 pm to
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And yes, Harry Potter gets extremely dark towards the later books and even films.




Which was my point.


You seem shocked that a major franchise marketed to the ENTIRE family might lighten the tone some. Even with that it’s dark
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:05 pm to
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How are you going to explain Nagini eating a teacher on a table come DH?


Pretty sure I'm going to go w/that teacher gets turned into a frog and hops away or something silly like that.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:47 pm to
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David Yates has also filmed all the Fantastic Beast films which have been shite.



2 and 3 were shite. I'll stand on the first being a really enjoyable movie. But yeah, he's really bland as a director.


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He made an unreadable slog of a book a good movie in order of the Phoenix



I dont think it's a good movie but he did do the best he could. Order is easily the weakest of the 7 books. It's just miserable to get through at certain points. People just forget it because Half Blood came out and was the best book in the series. I'm not looking forward to the TV adaptation of Order, either.
Posted by ThoseGuys
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:52 pm to
Am I alone in feeling like the books got worst as she tried to make them darker/mature? (Now I'm not saying they are bad, but just not as enjoyable)

Reading the last two books it almost felt like she realized her books were popular with adults as well as kids and started to write them more toward the adults.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:53 pm to
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Because, given any little bit of thought, “Goblet” is the dumbest of the books.


I like a lot of the overall story but it is the one when Harry started to be so mad at everyone all the time that he gets rather annoying to read at times.

I'd agree that JKR shows some serious cracks in her writing ability w/this book though.

The entire SPEW plot line is probably the most ridiculous aspect in it. Hermione and to a lesser degree Dumbledore are somehow the only two people in the book who think it's awful house elves are slaves. I can understand the argument for having pure blood wizards not really see an issue w/it since they all grew up w/it being normalized but for zero of the muggle born kids to care was weird as hell. Harry himself was essentially a slave to the Dursley's so for him to basically give zero fricks was one of the strangest choices I've ever seen in a book.
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:16 pm to
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Children of Men was released in 2006 and Gravity in 2013, so these were in the interim and we would have gotten both. That really makes me feel old saying Gravity was released in 2013.


Given how long cuaron takes developing his projects, I'm not so sure.
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:49 pm to
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Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:27 pm to
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I am really partial to the Columbus first two movies. I enjoy those the most out of the movies. The movies needed to go darker though, I just like what Columbus did with them. I'm not a huge fan of Azkaban, so I was fine with Cuaron not doing more. I don't like the little cutesy transition shots of the whomping willow or buckbeak crushing things.

It's a disgrace what they did to Goblet, my favorite book as well Dumbledore said calmly.

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Here’s the thing with Order and JKR realized it in the immediate aftermath of releasing it: it’s way too fricking long. It has a great story and Umbridge is the single greatest villain in the franchise, but she needed to cut literally 300 pages of it.


Harry is just unlikeable in a lot of it. Teenage angst to the max. It definitely needed a trim, but Umbridge is just so good in both the book and film.
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:32 pm to
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Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:44 pm to
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’d say they’re the most rewatchable and joyful of them. I’ve probably watched those two movies than the other six combined. You have to be in the mood for the others while you can put the first two on at anytime and put them on the background and have a great time.

So no judgement here, but I really like the darkness of the Harry Potter universe but the light heartedness of the first two are absolutely wonderful.



Yeah I like the entire series, I like how it gets darker, but just as a get in the Halloween mood or getting ready for a trip to universal. Throw in the first one and just enjoy.

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agree, but it makes sense for a 15 year old who is being continuously gaslit and his life being ruined. So it’s more with what’s happening to Harry that I find it forgivable.


Yeah, me and my daughter about 200 pages in right now on her first read through of the series. I was already warning her that get ready for knowing what dealing with a teenager is like and how much Harry whines in this one. LOL

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Yeah, she is one of the best villains of all time and I think is more evil than Voldemort himself.


I agree, she is freaking torturing the kids and getting off to it, and all the teachers are just ignoring it. It's just insane. Voldy had some some grand plan to make the wizarding world better, Umbridge is just over there enjoying death and pain.

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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:51 pm to
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Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:29 pm to
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To be fair, Snape and McGonagol tried to protect the kids from her. In the books, Snape does not give her Veritaserum and lies that his stores are all depleted.


Yeah but they still let her do that insane shite with the blood pen. It’s more clear in the movies that she it is doing it to all of them. In the books we know Harry and Harry sees Lee Jordan had the same treatment.
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