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re: THR: Paapa Essiedu has been offered to play Severus Snape in HBO's Harry Potter adaptation

Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Snape to being black would solve the "white man evil" trope that you guys would have been complaining about if they went with a white guy.



Bruh, no one cared about this trope until they would almost switch anyone BUT white villains. It was pretty clear the political aim of making sure heroes were minorities/women and villains were always white men.

This was never a thing. Ever.


No one cared that Drago is white, or Gruber is white, or Vader, or Sarumon, or the guy from Aliens is white or that Principal Vernon... and on and on and on.

No one cared.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70814 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:24 pm to
He pretends to be retarded when he gets embarrassed.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
6131 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:54 pm to
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Bruh, no one cared about this trope until they would almost switch anyone BUT white villains.


Correct. People here currently care about this.

I'm not defending this casting decision. I don't know this actor, and I don't like this book series, though I am very familiar with it.

I'm saying the people here would be bitching no matter what, because their nostalgic feels about this property combined with their confidence that everything is woke means they can never be satisfied, or anything other than whiny bitches, even when the original writer is involved in the decision making.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:59 pm to
quote:

solve the "white man evil" trope that you guys would have been complaining about if they went with a white guy


Snape is a good guy.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:00 am to
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I am very familiar with it.


No you aren't. You said Snape being a black man would fix the "white man evil trope." You aren't familiar with this series at all.
Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
6980 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:42 am to
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Did I not make it clear that just about everything you initially posted is completely racist?

Are you asking me to spin your racism - better?!?

I can't tell you how to not be racist. That's on you. I just just have logical thoughts


Tell me how its racist, oh intelligent one. I would argue I am a bigot, not racist. Google it. You call me racist over acknowledging ridiculous race changes done in the name of virtue signalling. As was brought up in this thread, why change it at all?
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:57 am to
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if he is the right guy for the role - no issue with it. if you are casting him for the sake of pandering and woke shite - I am out.


But hes not. Rowling actually wrote in black characters. None were major roles, but all good characters. Id bet you could round up at least 500 white English actors with black hair and dark eyes...that also can act well.

I agree with others that with the hatred amongst Harry, his dad, Sirius and Snape, you only create this odd racism angle that was never in the HP stories

The tide has definitely shifted as the public has become tired of this. If HBO really does race swaps, they are going to destroy a peak GOT level of viewership series
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 1:01 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 7:30 am to
They should have thrown the house at Adam Driver to play Snape imo.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 7:30 am to
The pearl clutching in this thread is a sitght to behold.

Im gonna laugh so hard when the dude doesn't even want the role
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47250 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 7:33 am to
Once again, this is a studio bending the knee and taking a massive L. War of the Rohirrim pulled sure defeat out of the lap of victory with its girlbossery, and now this.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47250 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 7:36 am to
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Im gonna laugh so hard when the dude doesn't even want the role


Chances of that even happening?

Oh, sure. He may raise a Trans flag in protest, then fans will get a proper, book accurate Snape. That's possible. But I'd be shocked.


Ncuti Gatwa say "hi!"
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70814 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 7:44 am to
Right, how dare fans not want their favorite IPs destroyed.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Did I not make it clear that just about everything you initially posted is completely racist?



No, you didn't. You simply called it racist. You provided no examples of why you hold that opinion. He actually did a good job of explaining why race swapping is racist, and you didn't refute a single point.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 8:00 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Im gonna laugh so hard when the dude doesn't even want the role


Would change literally nothing. It's a bad sign that they're pursuing this guy at all for this role.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72131 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Would change literally nothing. It's a bad sign that they're pursuing this guy at all for this role.


Or this is just these media companies making shite up to try and will it into existence.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71163 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:10 am to
The funny thing is that the characters who were black in the series (Kingsley Shacklebolt, Dean Thomas, Lee Jordan, Angelina Johnson, etc.) will remain black while major characters who were originally white (like Severus Snape) will likely be race swapped.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:01 am to
quote:

The funny thing is that the characters who were black in the series (Kingsley Shacklebolt, Dean Thomas, Lee Jordan, Angelina Johnson, etc.) will remain black while major characters who were originally white (like Severus Snape) will likely be race swapped.

Does this mean the blacks won the race war? I'm confused why this should bother me?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71163 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:10 am to
quote:

I'm confused why this should bother me


I don't care if it does or doesn't bother you. Your opinion in this discussion is irrelevant.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Does this mean the blacks won the race war? I'm confused why this should bother me?


This is obviously a question you need to ask yourself, because this topic clearly bothers you quite a bit.

No one else will be able to tell you why you are so hyper-focused on this.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:47 am to
I am not the one complaining about race-swapping. I figured one of you that doesn't like it would be able to tell me why it's bad.
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