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re: The Queen's Gambit Netflix

Posted on 11/2/20 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 2:16 pm to
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You gonna be playing yourself more now?

If I could envision the chessboard on the ceiling, I wouldn't even need a board.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 2:44 pm to
The ending scene got me warm fuzzied af.

Massive spoilers therein,

LINK
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5531 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:05 pm to
Just get Tranqed up and you'll be good to go.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:19 pm to
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And it got me fired up about chess again! I was once infatuated with the game.





It made me realize how terrible of a chess player I was when I did play. My dad tried to teach me, but it just didn't take.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:34 pm to
Finished it up tonight. Such a fantastic series. I absolutely lost it when she took the photo of her Mr. Shaibel.
Posted by vuvuzela
Oregon
Member since Jun 2010
14663 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:14 pm to
Phenomenal show. Loved it from front to finish and shed a tear at a certain part in the finale.


Spoilers











I did find the romanticism of the Russian culture to be far fetched, and am a bit tired of seeing the Americans (and Christians) being painted as the bad guys. Other than that, in my top 5 shows this year.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 11:17 pm
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:28 pm to
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shed a tear at a certain part in the finale.



Things may have gotten a little dusty when Jolene said "Good for you, cracker. Good for you."

I really loved Jolene's character and think that actress, Moses Ingram (who is a relative newcomer), did a tremendous job with the role.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35506 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 12:06 am to
Agree.

She was the balance of a sane person in that entire show.

She helped her at the beginning and then helped her at the end.

Smart bookend by the writers.
This post was edited on 11/3/20 at 12:07 am
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 12:29 am to
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I did find the romanticism of the Russian culture to be far fetched, and am a bit tired of seeing the Americans (and Christians) being painted as the bad guys.


I think the Christian subplot was completely unnecessary, but I don't think the series painted Americans as bad guys. I think there was just a contrast of what the machine wanted Beth to say, and her just wanting to be a chess player.

I actually thought the ending scene was pretty touching. I don't think that was romanticism of russian culture, just her loving chess and chess players being excited to be in the company of greatness.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 4:41 am to
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I actually thought the ending scene was pretty touching. I don't think that was romanticism of russian culture, just her loving chess and chess players being excited to be in the company of greatness.



I thought it was more just an expression of her recognizing her roots and who she is. Thought that was the theme of the entire final episode actually.
Posted by vuvuzela
Oregon
Member since Jun 2010
14663 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 3:53 pm to
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I actually thought the ending scene was pretty touching. I don't think that was romanticism of russian culture, just her loving chess and chess players being excited to be in the company of greatness.


Yeah, I can definitely see that, and my girlfriend saw it the same way. Might've just had my arse a little too high up near my shoulders during this election.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5507 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 6:42 pm to
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I actually thought the ending scene was pretty touching. I don't think that was romanticism of russian culture, just her loving chess and chess players being excited to be in the company of greatness.


It goes back to comments she and others made previously about how little chess was respected compared to how it was/is in Russia. And the reception she got in Russia and the way they reacted to her success was a joy for her compared to the way Americans. She had already shown that she wasn't one to be forced into saying things she didn't believe, and she saw through the bogus State Department/CIA bullshite from her handler. I can see her staying in Russia for a while to enjoy their love of the game and to reconnect with Townes. It's nice to be appreciated, and the Russians did that.

It's a shame that there's really no reason for a second season, but they did such a good job with this single season that that's okay.
Posted by auburn32
Auburn
Member since Dec 2009
2168 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 7:23 pm to
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Finished it up tonight. Such a fantastic series. I absolutely lost it when she took the photo of her Mr. Shaibel.


The emotional payoff of that photo/newspaper wall was pretty awesome.

Loved the show.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 9:20 pm to
The show was fantastic -best I've seen in ages. Chess drives the plot, and it's interesting, and the movie makes you feel.
A lot of great acting and interesting characters.
This post was edited on 11/4/20 at 9:21 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42576 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 7:48 am to
Anna Taylor Joy is a really good actress
Some weird choices for the roles she's taken but she nails every role she's in
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37069 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 11:19 pm to
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The Queen's Gambit Netflix
I just started this today and just into E3. Not reading full thread yet, but thanks for Rec.
Posted by PEEPO
Member since Sep 2020
1820 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 11:58 pm to
Misc small gripes or note:

1. Show is painfully slow sometimes.

2. They make her way too weird and awkward as a child, she doesn't come across as a gifted girl with problems she comes across as the most autistic person to have ever lived. Her personality as a teen is much more believable.

3. The dialog is way too constructed at times. The way her mother speaks is just absurd. Even the most pretentious people don't talk the way she does.

4. As someone who plays fairly decent chess (~1600'ish), they do a pretty good job in that department, about as good as they can I guess. They use the "OMG I'm so surprised by that move" trope way too much. Great players are very rarely surprised by some amazing tactic. Sure it does happen (and happened more in those days than today) but games with magical combinations are not the norm. Games between two great players are usually slow positional slogs where one side gains a very small advantage and just sorta strangles the other player slowly with it. That doesn't make for great tv I guess.

This post was edited on 11/6/20 at 12:05 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99038 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 10:57 am to
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2. They make her way too weird and awkward as a child, she doesn't come across as a gifted girl with problems she comes across as the most autistic person to have ever lived. Her personality as a teen is much more believable.



Having worked with middle and high school kids and now in a school with highly gifted kids, her awkwardness is 100% spot on.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37069 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 11:57 am to
Just finished watching and really enjoyed it. I thought her awkwardness as a child was completely believable.

My only issue with the show is I found the pacing to be very inconsistent and often distracting. I don't have a specific example, but I thought it was very noticeable.
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 10:49 am to
Surprised nobody has mentioned the Heath Ledger angle. This would have been Ledger's directorial debut. He was also set to star alongside Ellen Page in this movie production right before his death. He had a keen interest in chess, and of course, the other addictive aspect of the book. Production and principal photography were planned for late 2008 but were put on hold following Ledger's death in January 2008.
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