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Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:04 pm to Pandy Fackler
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These fricking people know exactly what they're doing and they know exactly what their audience wants.
This is complete nonsense.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:05 pm to QJenk
they are inducting your kids into the new normal. :) Congrats!
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:13 pm to JustinBRLA
You sound like a teenage girl
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:20 pm to JustinBRLA
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Shows like this and Drag Race, and any other show that manages to sneak in a gay character that you melt over actually do wonders for people who have nowhere else to look.
Drag Race "sneaks" a gay character in every now and then? frick off with your queer propaganda.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:10 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:explain
SNOWFLAKES!
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:15 pm to QJenk
I have never watched it.
Seemed like it was made specifically for black people.
Much like Empire, Power, and whatever Jordan Peele is doing.
Stuff for blacks, by blacks, almost exclusively featuring blacks.
Let the blacks have it.
Seemed like it was made specifically for black people.
Much like Empire, Power, and whatever Jordan Peele is doing.
Stuff for blacks, by blacks, almost exclusively featuring blacks.
Let the blacks have it.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:21 pm to JustinBRLA
quote:the good old reliable strawman argument.
Now here's where I get confused though... I've been on this board a VERY long time, and most people here who complain about gay, also complain about black. If The Proud Family came out today in its original iteration, do you know how many threads we'd see from the Whitehoods on this board? Yet your posts that I did read seem very fair when it comes to other fire brand topics like race, or women's sports, etc. So on that note I must say I'm surprised.
Calling everyone you disagree with "racist" is just laziness.
People who see racists everywhere, do so to overcompensate for their own guilt at being inherently racist.
Classic "Don't look at me, look at THEM!!!!" deflection
Posted on 3/17/22 at 1:39 am to Roaad
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the good old reliable strawman argument.
Calling everyone you disagree with "racist" is just laziness.
People who see racists everywhere, do so to overcompensate for their own guilt at being inherently racist.
Classic "Don't look at me, look at THEM!!!!" deflection
Uh on this board I don't have to look very far for racism. It's blatant. I don't have to search for it. And the same could be said for you guys who find some "gay agenda" anytime a show has a gay character.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 2:03 am to QJenk
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This is probably a stupid melt.
Sounds like the show is just reflecting the current time period. None of the things you mentioned is out of the ordinary, we just don’t pretend like it doesn’t exist anymore.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 2:39 am to GeauxTigerTM
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This may come as a shock to you, but not that long ago there were tons of options for black lead programming, and it appealed to both black and (wait for it) white audiences. Who exactly had a problem with The Jefferson, Good Times, Different Strokes, Sanford & Son, What's Happening, Fat Albert, Family Matters, Cosby, Different World, Webster, Fresh Prince, Martin, Living Single, In Living Color, etc... The difference is shows made today are going out of their way to pretend none of those others shows ever happened...as if it's ground breaking to have a black lead show, because The Man had been keeping them from being made up until George Floyd or some stupid shite. On top of that, the times when you DO see people complain about a show with black lead today it is almost ALWAYS because they stupidly took an older property and race swapped known characters to appease clowns like you
Bingo. It's like a certain segment of the population wants us to forget the last 50-60 years so they can appear more virtuous and progressive today.
I'm sure most of us grew up watching many of the programs you listed. And we weren't thinking about shite like race or sexual orientation while watching them. They were popular shows because they had mass appeal to people of all backgrounds.
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How about stop destroying old shows and make something new?
If Disney and Hollywood had any integrity left, they would create more original family content with interesting, likable characters, and I'd bet almost no one would complain if some were gay, black, etc. Just stop trying to "reimagine" established, beloved shows to check off PC quotas.
If Family Matters was rebooted with Hispanic characters, and Steve Urkel was a lesbian named Stephanie Uribe, people would rightly be pissed.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 4:38 am to JustinBRLA
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Uh on this board I don't have to look very far for racism. It's blatant. I don't have to search for it.
This is a bunch of nonsense. Calling people on here white hoods is completely over the top. Where is the blatant racism in this thread, for example? Who, in your opinion, are the racists? Be specific, give us names.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:05 am to QJenk
I bet Walt is rolling over in his grave.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:28 am to JustinBRLA
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Point is, gay people exist
I acknowledge gay people existing. I have zero problem with gay people existing. Specifically for the show, one of the characters I highlighted I mentioned that he was basically already gay in the original series. He literally declined on playing football so he could try out for the cheerleading squad. My issue was, why did they take a background character, who wasn't even in most episodes, to be a main primary character in the new series. That was the point.
Furthermore, another episode was completely centered around a gay male makeup artist
Another episode was completely centered around the gay dads where they made sure to center on them kissing multiple times in the episode.
As I said, I have no problem with gay people existing. I'm someone who is actually for gay marriage. But why does that have to become the main central topic of the entire show. The show was never like that previously. Hell, even though the show is featuring a primarily black cast. That was never really the theme of the show. That just so happened to be their race. In the one "woke" episode of the original series, it featured the main character traveling back in time to the 50s. The premise of the episode made her more thankful for the people that came before her and their sacrifices, and ultimately made her more thankful to be able to have certain privileges that she has in her life, one being to have a white best friend.
Btw, thanks for stalking me buddy. I feel like a celebrity now. As for the comment about Brittney Griner, you had it wrong. I didn't make that comment you quoted, I only responded to it.
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most people here who complain about gay, also complain about black. If The Proud Family came out today in its original iteration, do you know how many threads we'd see from the Whitehoods on this board? Yet your posts that I did read seem very fair when it comes to other fire brand topics like race, or women's sports, etc. So on that note I must say I'm surprised.
P.S. Im black.
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This is not the first show that's been remade that adapts to the times and certainly won't be the last
Why though? Why not make entirely new content if that is the goal.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:59 am to JustinBRLA
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And the same could be said for you guys who find some "gay agenda" anytime a show has a gay character.
That’s every show, dude. You’re still living in a fantasy world where gays are underrepresented and marginalized rather than the real world where they’re over represented. Gays are everywhere in media these days, and sorry to burst your self-important bubble but nobody cares about them anymore except for liberals checking diversity boxes and people like you fantasizing about being oppressed.
Now here’s the nuanced part that you’ll never understand. We don’t care about gays in media. We do care when gays (or any checkbox diversity) are unnaturally thrust into a story just to satisfy people like you. We don’t like it when established source material is rewritten just to have diversity and no other reason. When the diversity doesn’t even make sense within the story.
Wheel of Time did this and it was awful. But think of all the casting changes that nobody questions. For example, did you know that Nick Fury was always a white guy? Nobody minds SLJ Bc he is perfect for the role and it makes sense.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:09 am to nvasil1
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I'm sure most of us grew up watching many of the programs you listed. And we weren't thinking about shite like race or sexual orientation while watching them. They were popular shows because they had mass appeal to people of all backgrounds.
Exactly. Look...I get that in the past there was less over all representation in TV and Movies and I'm glad that's been corrected (well, way over corrected but still.) That said, this idea that the only people you can relate to on screen are people that are exactly like you in all traits is crazy. This is what's leading to not just this desire to go back and remake all these old IP's and black and brown wash them all, but it's where you're getting asinine views on "decolonizing" libraries because who could possibly relate to stories written by dead white men? Somehow, I was able to relate to characters that were not young white boys when I was growing up, because I found other universal traits they had that spoke to me. So did nearly everyone else I'm sure.
Saw a video yesterday that speaks to this...the need to relate to characters that don't look exactly like you. Newsflah...this guy is not exactly all MAGA.
How many boxes?
Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:20 am to nvasil1
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If Disney and Hollywood had any integrity left, they would create more original family content with interesting, likable characters
Last night the thread popped into my head and I started thinking that I'm not sure why I or anyone else is really all that surprised that Disney has gone back to their tried and true game plan of using previously known works to make money. Walt obviously got started with Mickey, but what really put them on the map was the full length features, which were largely old fairy tales they didn't write.
Snow White, Pinocchio, Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, Sleeping Beauty, Sword in the Stone, Jungle Book, Robin Hood, Winnie The Pooh, Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, etc. then, they remined those and turned many (and eventually all of them) into live action versions.
So OBVIOUSLY they're going to keep going back to old stuff, especially their own old stuff and "reimagining" them and this time given their desire to be political allies with the authoritarian left they are going to remake them in today's woke image.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 1:34 pm to QJenk
Better Nate Than Ever Premier
If you have issues with the Proud Family this will really set you off.
If you have issues with the Proud Family this will really set you off.
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 3/17/22 at 1:45 pm to JustinBRLA
quote:Because you see it in everything.
on this board I don't have to look very far for racism
Because you are racist.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 1:50 pm to JustinBRLA
quote:I'll take "tell me you don't know any black people without actually saying it", Alex.
most people here who complain about gay, also complain about black.
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