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re: The Perfect neighbor- Netflix

Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:52 am to
Posted by Graton
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:52 am to
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You believe that part?


No, I believe the mom was probably threatening to whip her arse.

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Would have been very easy to find if that existed. But they didn't so I highly doubt it was there.


I never said it existed. I said if it did exist, Susan beats the case and is protected by SYG.

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You really think she was scared?


She brought all of it on herself but I do believe she was scared enough to blindly shoot through the door. I'm not excusing what she did by any means. She was batshit crazy. She knew she would get that arse handed to her by everyone in the neighborhood.

I don't remember it being clear in the documentary, did she research the stand your ground laws before or after the shooting? If it was before then it was absolutely premeditated.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:53 am to
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This. Can’t tell me the lady who “worked from home” couldn’t afford some $20 blink cameras on prime day


At one point she told the cops she was a doctor. Sure lady.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:56 am to
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She brought all of it on herself but I do believe she was scared enough to blindly shoot through the door. I'm not excusing what she did by any means. She was batshit crazy. She knew she would get that arse handed to her by everyone in the neighborhood.


That's fair. I honestly never got the feeling that she was scared there. She would have moved a long time ago and even more so, after she killed the lady, she was like "Ok yea I'll go home." If she was scared she would have been asking for a hotel room and telling them no way I'll go back there. Just the way i read it.

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I don't remember it being clear in the documentary, did she research the stand your ground laws before or after the shooting? If it was before then it was absolutely premeditated.


Before. I think it was just a few days before. Could be wrong but I remember thinking that was probably the main reason the jury convicted her, That's pretty telling.
Posted by Graton
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:04 am to
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after she killed the lady, she was like "Ok yea I'll go home." If she was scared she would have been asking for a hotel room and telling them no way I'll go back there.

Did she go back home after the shooting? I thought the detectives told her not to go back there for her safety and she agreed and got a hotel. I'll have to rewatch this.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:12 am to
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Did she go back home after the shooting?


Literally the next day to get some belongings and clothes.

Did no one catch the kid outside her place say that guns are dangerous. She commented back saying yeah they make a mess too as she was cleaning up the glass.

Everything we saw on film that came out of her mouth was either a lie or showed zero remorse for the situation. She can sit there and claim the mom was screaming she was gonna kill her or beat her arse, but history shows thats more than likely a lie.

This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 10:13 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:21 am to
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Could be wrong but I remember thinking that was probably the main reason the jury convicted her, That's pretty telling.


Was that even evidence admitted during the trial? This is part of the problem with a lot of these documentaries. They don’t really go into too much detail.

She was charged and convicted of manslaughter and some lesser offenses. Premeditation was not an element of those charges, nor was it alleged in the trial.
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:32 am to
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Premeditation was not an element of those charges, nor was it alleged in the trial.

i dont think they could have proven it in a million years, but my opinion is that it was premeditated. the research into the stand your ground laws, the repetitive stating "i feared for my life" to the police, etc. i dont think she maybe planned for it to happen that specific night, but she was looking for a reason and opportunity to "stand her ground" and she forced it into the wrong situation.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 10:33 am
Posted by Graton
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:58 am to
Ok, yeah I remember that scene now with her going back to get her property but she had to have a police escort. She didn't just leave the police station and go back home by herself to crash. She was crazy but she wasn't that crazy She seemed to be a territorial old hag. Prison should serve her well.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:08 am to
At least they put a graphic up at the end before her guilty verdict to let us know stand your ground laws are racist.
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:09 am to
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At least they put a graphic up at the end before her guilty verdict to let us know stand your ground laws are racist.

with zero critical thought or analysis put into why the numbers might be what they are
Posted by Graton
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:12 am to
Yeah, I think more black people should be shooting the white people breaking into their homes to even the numbers out. Netflix never misses an opportunity to race bait.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Agree with how things ended and that she was guilty of shooting that lady, but I would have gone with involuntary manslaughter... 5-7 years in prison. I thought 30 years was way too harsh. If someone was banging on my door I would have warned them and if they didn't leave and I felt my life was "in imminent danger" (which is what the law says) I would have shot through my door also.

In cases like this, I’m always curious how the judge have reacted if somebody was banging on his door? Obviously, they might tell you one thing, but I am willing to vent that most Americans would’ve done the same exact thing as that old lady, if somebody was relentlessly banging on their door.

I guess one big thing they weren’t able to prove is that the black lady was saying “I’m going to kill you”, that was simply a he said/she said thing


I think based on that, the judge determined she shot out of anger more so than fear. That’s what got her all that time in jail.

But I agree, the race card was played quite a bit, and that angle is always exhausting for me to watch



This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:32 pm to
Did anybody else notice the black aura that remained after she got up from her chair? That woman was pure evil.

This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:32 pm to
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and I felt my life was "in imminent danger" (which is what the law says) I would have shot through my door also.

i dont know what the law says, but common sense says that you arent in imminent danger if a locked exterior door stands between you and the threat.
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Did yall catch where she told someone that she was a Dr. k


Also said she had someone break in and try to rape her (or something along those lines) but later when they asked if she'd ever experienced anything similar she said no
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:50 pm to
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The white chick across the street with a phone always in one hand, a cigarette in the other, and like 4 mixed kids without dads was the star of the show.


she was the realest one of the bunch, no doubt. You befriend that chick and she'll be your ride-or-die for life
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:57 pm to
I think you're good on spoiler warnings.

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If someone was banging on my door I would have warned them and if they didn't leave and I felt my life was "in imminent danger" (which is what the law says) I would have shot through my door also.


The thing is though, she wasn't in imminent danger. You can't believe anything that lady says. Common sense also tells you she was behind a deadbolted door.

The lady was trying to get her kids tablet back. Sure, she was probably banging pretty loud and hollering. She was not trying to break the door down or yelling that she was going to kill her. And honestly, she was understandably mad, why tf is an old lady stealing a kids tablet, what an idiot.

Karen had called the kids retarded and ni**ers. If she was somehow still peaceful after her kid got called a racial slur then she wasn't putting Karen's life in danger over a tablet.

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In cases like this, I’m always curious how the judge have reacted if somebody was banging on his door? Obviously, they might tell you one thing, but I am willing to vent that most Americans would’ve done the same exact thing as that old lady, if somebody was relentlessly banging on their door.



Nah. Most are going to call the cops and give the cops time to respond, not fire away two minutes later. I've got a safe full of guns and a big boy pistol in my nightstand for home defense. I'm not shooting someone for knocking loudly. I'm not shooting until they are busting in.

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I guess one big thing they weren’t able to prove is that the black lady was saying “I’m going to kill you”, that was simply a he said/she said thing


People testified that there was loud knocking and yelling. Pretty obvious she made up the "I'm going to kill you" part.

The jury deliberated for less than 3 hours from what I read. That shows you it was pretty clear cut.

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5-7 years in prison


Hell no. This woman does not deserve to ever geet out of prison.
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:05 pm to
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I don't remember it being clear in the documentary, did she research the stand your ground laws before or after the shooting? If it was before then it was absolutely premeditated.


pretty sure she had searched it up earlier that same day, which is why the cops asked. Looked extremely suspicious
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:10 pm to
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She can sit there and claim the mom was screaming she was gonna kill her or beat her arse, but history shows thats more than likely a lie.



Well, one of the witnesses they questioned earlier said that he heard the mom banging on the door saying, "Why'd you take my son's tablet? Come outside, bitch. I know you hear me outside, bitch" but nothing threatening
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:13 pm to
The most telling thing was when she was being interrogated and the detective asked her if she had looked on Facebook that day, and she said she had, and he asked her what she had seen.... then she proceeded to tell him she had seen the lies being told about her and how they were being untruthful in how they were portraying her. It was all about HER.
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