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re: 'The Penguin' Season 1 Discussion Thread - Spoilers allowed

Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:54 am to
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:54 am to
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Like The Sopranos, the writers have you pulling for these horrible people to come out on top


My wife said last night, "you know, Penguin isn't such a bad guy. I wonder when he's going to turn bad?" Maybe my glasses are tinted by knowing the Batman universe, but I'm thinking, "he's a horrible guy."
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:08 pm to
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My wife said last night, "you know, Penguin isn't such a bad guy. I wonder when he's going to turn bad?"
His character arc begins with him murdering possibly the "nicest" member of his employer/crime family because the guy mouthed off to him.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:12 pm to
And he burned two others to death last week
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:25 pm to
"hmm, he seems like a nice guy"
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:27 pm to
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His character arc begins with him murdering possibly the "nicest" member of his employer/crime family because the guy mouthed off to him.


Yeah, that plus the burning of the two Maronis speaks to your point about the writers making us root for him. He has done and will continue to do awful things, but we're still kind of going for him. He's the "underdog," however terrible he is.
Posted by themetalreb
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 5:50 pm to
Agreed….it’s actually unreal how the writers make us pull for The Penguin, with us KNOWING he is a horrible person….also, and this has been mentioned before, it’s a little strange that there is no police angle at all. These dudes are all in a big city where they can literally just do as they please without ANY interruption from Johnny Law. Strange.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:03 pm to
Because they’re all paid off. It’s pretty well talked about through the movie (I think anyway maybe I’m misremembering) and even hinted at in the show with the one drop head dude that Sofia goes to.
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:10 pm to
I get that, but like with Sal…he has got to be Gotham’s Most Wanted now that he has broken out of Black Gate. But is he hiding? Laying low? Just for a minute, but now he’s out with Sophia ransacking Oz’s apartment with no fear.
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:16 pm to
Just finished ep6.. frick this show is so damn good...
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 9:11 am to
It really is great…next week’s episode should be fantastic…
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 9:39 am to
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it’s a little strange that there is no police angle at all. These dudes are all in a big city where they can literally just do as they please without ANY interruption from Johnny Law. Strange.
There's some police angle. Oz's instructions to Vic after Vic's interaction with Squid made it obvious that they can't leave evidence for the police.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:56 pm to
This is a really great show. Just caught up. There have been multiple scenes that are so intense. And Colin Ferrell is just slaying this role.
Posted by D_cup
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:13 am to
Helping that guy get out of his parking spot made me laugh. "Keep moving, you've got room" he's a nice penguin
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:24 am to
You've got more room than you think
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:28 am to
He wants to be just like the guy he talked about. He knows he's the bad guy. Its okay as long as hes the bad guy for the good guys. For the little guys.

He's no worse than the political class of eletists. If batman spent half as much time fighting corruption in his own class the worls would be better off than going after drug dealers.
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:43 am to
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You’ve got more room than you think


Already a classic movie line in my book
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 9:13 am to
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He wants to be just like the guy he talked about.
They're not too subtle about that, but then this show holds back where other shows would have Penguin saying, "I want to be that guy!"

It goes back to Vito getting his first respect in Godfather II, the kids in Henry Hill's neighborhood carrying his mother's groceries home for her. Oz wants that glowing memory from his childhood that's had the violence filtered out by nostalgia.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 9:46 am to
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Helping that guy get out of his parking spot made me laugh. "Keep moving, you've got room" he's a nice penguin



definitely laughed out loud
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10520 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 9:51 am to
Missed opportunity to have harry mack play squid. could have even had some freestyle raps. that's all i could think about in his final scene.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8551 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:02 am to
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You've got more room than you think


I couldn't stop laughing at that line. His mannerisms and then that line...top notch.

Love this show.
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