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re: The Official DragonBall Thread....est 2012

Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:34 am to
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:34 am to
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Well until now one wasn't even cannon



This dragon ball heroes stuff isn’t canon. Ssj4 still isn’t canon
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:47 am to
Canon or not I just want good dragon Ball stories
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by TooFyeToFly
Atlanta, Georgia
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:42 am to
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Cell Saga in 5 minutes (comedy live action)



I can't believe I've never seen this. Thanks for posting it.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:06 pm to
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Ssj4


Is part of GT and is therefor canon.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:37 pm to
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Is part of GT and is therefor canon


Maybe I’m an idiot, but I could have sworn GT wasn’t considered canon because Toriyama wasn’t involved in the writing.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:56 pm to
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Maybe I’m an idiot, but I could have sworn GT wasn’t considered canon because Toriyama wasn’t involved in the writing.


No, you're right, my bad. Apparently Toriyama declared it non-canon (GT) with the release of Super, which corrects the discrepancies between the two.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 1:13 pm to
Everything about that was great
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 1:16 pm to
quote:


Is part of GT and is therefor canon
nothing about GT is Canon it's a completely separate timeline and money grab
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 3:26 pm to
I own GT on dvd and enjoy it for for what is lol.

However, I have all of DBZ KAI on blu-ray and it still is the GOAT. I’ve seen like five episodes of Super and will be adding those to my collection soon as well, but need to somehow find out what episodes to avoid since I own both Battle of the Gods and the Frieza movie.

Excited for it.
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 4:14 pm to
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but need to somehow find out what episodes to avoid since I own both Battle of the Gods and the Frieza movie.


Roughly the first 30-ish.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 4:21 pm to
Jesus, it took that many? I was thinking like 10-15.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

However, I have all of DBZ KAI on blu-ray and it still is the GOAT. I’ve seen like five episodes of Super and will be adding those to my collection soon as well, but need to somehow find out what episodes to avoid since I own both Battle of the Gods and the Frieza movie.



Yeah, I'm not sure why they even bothered. It's still entertaining, so I wouldn't fully skip it.
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 7:33 pm to
I think it's 27 episodes to get through the stories told in the Battle of Gods and Resurrection F movies. Episode 28 starts the Universe 6 saga.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 7:40 pm to
quote:


No, you're right, my bad. Apparently Toriyama declared it non-canon (GT) with the release of Super, which corrects the discrepancies between the two.


And thank god for that. GT sort of destroyed several characters and turning Goku back into a damn child was ridiculous.

I think they were going for the adventurous charm of the Dragonball franchise and figured a child Goku would bring back some of that magic.

I think Super has attempted in several ways to get back to the adventurous charm of Dragon Ball (hinted by Goku being extra stupid) but they I think ultimately Super is getting back to DBZ style with some hints of dragonball.

Frankly DBZ really took the DB in a new tonal direction as it went from fun/adventurous to serious/scifi and Super is a mix of the two and it seems to work.
Posted by rebel of fortune
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3860 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:01 am to
If GT didn’t turn Goku into a kid and didn’t start the series with the black star dragon ball arc it would’ve been successful. Pan was a terrible character and was basically given the 2nd most screen time only behind Goku. Dragon Ball Super will be on Adult Swim on weekdays and takes over King of the Hill time slot.
Posted by sportsaddit68
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 5:55 am to
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Dragon Ball Super will be on Adult Swim on weekdays and takes over King of the Hill time slot.


I wonder if it's just gonna be up to what's been shown already, with new ones only on Saturday Nights, or if new ones will air every night
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
30117 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:25 am to
If you liked the Mega 64 Cell saga video, make sure you watch the Frieza saga one they did a few years ago

Frieza Saga in 5 minutes
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:49 am to
I also love DBZ Abridged (and their Kai Abridged series as well).

In DBZ, I got a little annoyed at how much a lot of very important characters began to take a backseat to Vegeta. All the humans were really important, especially Krillin, up through the Frieza saga even if their power levels weren't up there. Then came the Android/Cell Saga, and all but Krillin were filler and even Krillin was only important for having the hots for Android 18. Then came the Buu saga and if you weren't a Sayian, you were trash. Super is sort of the same way, though giving Roshi some cool moments was pretty awesome.


Interesting note though. In Super's tournament, the single most important EVENT is actually done by Krillin.

Krillin saves Android 18 from falling.
Android 18 defeats several foes, before saving her brother Android 17.
Android 17 prevents Goku and Vegeta from getting blasted off when both were incapacitated, was the one to defeat the giant, merged robot dude, and of course was the final winner overall.

So, Krillin, at least, gets a moment that the show doesn't really acknowledge. In all honesty, he's my favorite character, so I was hoping he'd have a better run in the tournament.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12401 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:42 pm to
Yeah the main problem with DBZ is that it completely cut off all other races except Saiyans. Everyone else had a power cap so they became throwaways. They upped Piccolo in frieze and somewhat android saga, but became useless with the rest afterward.

I'm not sure why they decided that so many races and characters could no longer compete. Made it very one dimensional.
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