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re: The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power S1, Episode 4 Thread | Amazon | Available Now
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:05 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:05 pm to SammyTiger
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He doesn’t come as Sauron. He disguises himself
In some cases, but not all.
Everyone in this world knows exactly who he is and is scared of him
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Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:07 pm to diddlydawg7
Can anyone co firm how many seasons they plan on doing? I know a second is confirmed but I've seen as many as 5
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:09 pm to Magician2
I think 5 is the plan
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:13 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
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convinced that the bearded advisor to the Queen of the Island Kingdom is actually Sauron.
This is actually a really good thought, for a couple reasons, but the fact that you refer to it as the Island Kingdom rather than Númenor makes me wonder if it’s a lucky guess
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:19 pm to Scoob
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The Galadriel you see in LOTR is thousands of years older than this one, and will have been through a whole lot more. This series, she is getting pumped up to chase and fight Sauron.
You do realize that she over 6000 maybe 7000 years old at the time in the show. Married and have children. Also from this forward she never actually fights in an actual battle. Does however us her ring in the future to help provide cover in the form of mist. Not sure how much more experience you expect her to gain
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:27 pm to SammyTiger
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Tolkien describes her as proudful a lot early on.
Can you please cite the examples you’re talking about? Specifically bolded the “a lot” to see what are all these examples you are referencing.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 9/16/22 at 2:53 pm to diddlydawg7
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I hate how the show acts like everyone thinks he’s dead when in reality everyone knows he was still alive but just thought he was done causing trouble. Nobody was really scared of him at this point, just thought he wasn’t a problem
Actually in the Lore the majority or mainly elves did not know Sauron is back or that he raised an army. He begins to rebuild his might and army in secret but he befriended men and elves at this time.
Not sure what history you have read.
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Although Sauron knew that Men were easier to sway, he sought to bring the Elves into his service, as they were far more powerful. By about SA 1500, Sauron put on a fair visage and called himself Annatar, the "Lord of Gifts". He befriended the Elf smiths of Eregion, including Celebrimbor (greatest of craftsmen, as he was descended from Fëanor), and counselled them in arts and magic. Not all the Elves trusted him, particularly Lady Galadriel, Elrond, and Gil-galad, High King of the Ñoldor.
This is the current time line of the series. Sauron again is a shapeshifter and easily concealed his true identity from the great elves.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/16/22 at 2:58 pm to diddlydawg7
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This is actually a really good thought, for a couple reasons, but the fact that you refer to it as the Island Kingdom rather than Númenor makes me wonder if it’s a lucky guess
The advisor is more than that he is Ar-Pharazon
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Ar-Pharazôn, also known as Ar-Pharazôn the Golden, was the twenty-fifth and last King of Númenor. Of all the Kings of Númenor, he wielded the most power, but used it most unwisely; his desire for eternal life caused the destruction of Númenor and the Change of the World.
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Upon the death of his uncle, Tar-Palantir, who had no son, Ar-Pharazôn decided to wed his daughter, Míriel, which was against her will. As Tar-Míriel was the rightful Ruling Queen of Númenor, Ar-Pharazôn was able to usurp the throne.
Later he travels to take on Sauron and actually captures him unbeknown to him that Sauron would later corrupt him.
He was the King when the Numenor kingdom/island was lost.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 3:09 pm to OBReb6
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Can you please cite the examples you’re talking about? Specifically bolded the “a lot” to see what are all these examples you are referencing.
There is one that I had seen.
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She was also the tallest of elf-women, standing at around 6 feet 4 inches, or 193 centimeters. Because of her wisdom and power, she had very important roles throughout the history of Middle-earth, especially during her time in Eregion and during the War of the Ring. She had a penchant for dressing in the purest white. She was known, especially in her younger days, as being quite prideful.
Also the same sources states she had never fought in any major war including the Kinslaying even though I have seen elsewhere she did.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 9/16/22 at 3:14 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
This was my favorite episode so far. I think the series has been amazing.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:48 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
The show is massively failing at immersion. Does anyone buy that Galadriel is thousands of years old? Would an immortal being who can be slain by physical wounds put herself in a position to be slain by attacking 5 armed warriors with no weapon and then invading the king's quarters. That is justification for execution in any medieval society.
Sure this is fantasy, but at a subconscious level, your brain is telling you...this doesnt make sense
Sure this is fantasy, but at a subconscious level, your brain is telling you...this doesnt make sense
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:52 pm to SlimTigerSlap
This is one boring show, again not bad, just boring and lacking a plot.
Glad continues to be a terrible character
Glad continues to be a terrible character
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:09 pm to FreddieMac
My biggest complaint is calling Isildur Isil all the time
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:36 pm to TexasTiger1185
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My biggest complaint is calling Isildur Isil all the time
Why? There’s absolutely no reason to think people couldn’t have called him that. Nicknames exist in the Tolkien universe
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:40 pm to diddlydawg7
I liked this episode, feels like we're starting to transition into story-mode (we've been in world-building mode so far).
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:44 pm to Scoob
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I liked this episode, feels like we're starting to transition into story-mode (we've been in world-building mode so far).
I did as well and agree that it seems it is finally heading that direction. Better have a great season finale because if a big cliff hanger is left I am not sure what viewers they will all come back.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:44 pm to TideWarrior
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Actually in the Lore the majority or mainly elves did not know Sauron is back or that he raised an army. He begins to rebuild his might and army in secret but he befriended men and elves at this time. Not sure what history you have read.
No one knew he raised an army. But nobody thought he was dead. Which is not what this show portrays.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:51 pm to diddlydawg7
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No one knew he raised an army. But nobody thought he was dead. Which is not what this show portrays.
Galadriel is the only that believes he is back as a threat. The king believes he is out there but does not perceive him a threat as he does not realized he has regained his power.
So the show is somewhat following the lore. Sauron was in hiding for over 5 centuries and has returned quietly and now his evil is making an appearance.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:52 pm to TideWarrior
There is literally an entire section of Unfinished Tales where he discusses how the Valar decided to leave Sauron alone because
1. He begged for pardon
2. He was considered so much lesser than Morgoth that they didn’t think he could cause any real trouble
So nobody ever thought he was dead, and nobody was all that worried about him. This show treats him like he’s the Candyman or something.
1. He begged for pardon
2. He was considered so much lesser than Morgoth that they didn’t think he could cause any real trouble
So nobody ever thought he was dead, and nobody was all that worried about him. This show treats him like he’s the Candyman or something.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:52 pm to TideWarrior
Does anyone feel the introduction to Adar in the cave felt like the scene when we first meet Col. Kurtz in the cave in Apocalypse Now? 
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