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re: The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power S1, Ep. 1 and 2 Thread | Amazon 9:00 pm EDT

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Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:11 am to
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Culture War fanatics first


I could careless about the race of any actor playing an elf. Still the show is not very good, it was just boring.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:23 am to
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Yeah, he’s a Tolkienite like me.


No he’s a conservative talking head who’s living is made ranting about the culture war.

So yeah just like you I guess.

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I’m sorry, we will not judge this series unbiasedly.


We know.

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We know what this world is, and you slandering us as racists does not inhibit what we and tens of million of other fans


You deciding to draw the line in the sand at race is what makes you a racist. We’ve talked about all the changes Jackson made and you seem ok with them. And these are changes to character description, how the actual story Unfolds and character actions.

This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:15 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:56 am to
Deciding to overtly & without reason or explanation insert racial characters which run contrary to what Tolkien wrote specifically in how he described the various races is undeniably racist.

It’s flipping off & ignoring his works while at the same time trying to grift & then shame real fans.

It not what he wrote. It doesn’t fit his story. And it utterly makes a mess of established lore.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:11 am
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:10 am to
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Deciding to overtly & without reason or explanation insert racial features which run contrary to what Tolkien wrote specifically in how he described the various races is undeniably racist.


How so?

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It’s flipping off & ignoring his works while at the same time trying to grift & then shame real fans.


That’s your opinion. Like I said, I dont Think the skin color of the elves is all that important to the work.

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It not what he wrote.


You established that you only care about that sometimes.

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It doesn’t fit his story.


You’re opinion

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And it utterly makes a mess of established lore.


How so?
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:11 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47270 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:16 am to
You’re a broken record who has had this explained ad nauseum. Pretending to not get it or understand is trolling & I’m not playing that game.

He wrote what he meant to write & was specific in characters appearance, their quality & temperament as well as an entire world in which they lived.

It’s so not an issue that there needs to be ANY redress of his work that to claim there is shows the height of arrogance, ignorance & insult to the man & his legacy.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:20 am to
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You’re a broken record

wow.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:21 am to
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You’re a broken record who has had this explained ad nauseum. Pretending to not get it or understand is trolling & I’m not playing that game.


It really hasn’t been explained. You give soft answers like “well it had the spirit of Tolkien”
And then you dismiss things as unimportant.

What you never have done is explained why skin color is more important than the things Jackson changed.

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He wrote what he meant to write & was specific in characters appearance, their quality & temperament as well as an entire world in which they lived.


And I’ve pointed out the ways Jackson’s changed appearance, character qualities and temperaments and even the actual story itself.

You dismiss all those things and accept them.

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It’s so not an issue that there needs to be ANY redress of his work that to claim there is shows the height of arrogance, ignorance & insult to the man & his legacy.


So why do you allow Jackson to do it without ranting and raving about it?

Why is skin color more important than Dwalin’s beard?
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:25 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:26 am to
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I honestly believe that you only watched that scene..


Yup, that and the rest of the prologue.

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How would you know if you stopped watching at the prologue?


Because that sets the tone for the entire series. Again it would be as if Jackson’s first scene was Bilbo adopting Frodo and then just briefly mentioning the One Ring and Gollum. It’s effectively telling the audience that this is not “Lord of the Rings” but “The Galadriel Show.” There are much more important things that you need to explain to the audience than Galadriel’s brother. That scene if anything should have been a flashback if it’s that important to the overall story (which it can’t be and seems entirely pointless).
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:27 am to
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Did you like the prologue?


Save for seeing the Two Trees, no.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:28 am to
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You deciding to draw the line in the sand at race is what makes you a racist.


Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:31 am to
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SammyTiger


Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:36 am to
You don’t have to telegraph the entire plot of a show in the first 5 minutes. Not everything needs a prolouge and this one did it’s job of explaining where the elves come from, why they left, why they fought what’s the state of that battle now, how long has the battle been going (long enough for Galadriel to grow up) and why the main character has the motivations she has.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3577 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:36 am to
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That prologue was total shite and didn’t tell us shite we needed to know. This series is garbage.



I can tell you that I have spoken with quite a few people who are not Tolkien nerds and have not read any of Tolkien's writings on the 1st or 2nd age...

Their take on the prologue is different than yours... albeit mixed

Some were completely engrossed in the 1st episode and felt like it set up the history well (for them..) and others were on the other side wanting/needing a more thorough set up...

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:38 am to
I said I’d keep it civil in this thread. I havw Strayed from that a little, but If you want to do this shite, we can. But let’s take the pettiness to the shitty thread where SEK shows how he dousing understand evolution.

You can avoid explaining why race is more important than other character descriptions there.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47270 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:41 am to
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it really hasn’t been explained.


It has.

At great length & in autistic detail.

You’re just ignoring what you don’t want to read. Because it collapses your stubborn SJW narrative.

You’re not posting in good faith & I’m not playing.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 10:27 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:42 am to
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I said I’d keep it civil in this thread.


Yeah, and your first reaction to anyone who has the most remote criticism is to slander them as a racist. You’re a regular Sir Walter Raleigh over here.

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You can avoid explaining why race is more important than other character descriptions there.


Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:50 am to
frick all you 7 woke pieces of shite who downvoted my last post. You’re a bunch of pussies
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:51 am to
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SammyTiger




White woke nerds calling other white people racist is got to be the funniest thing.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:52 am to
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You can avoid explaining why race is more important than other character descriptions there.


Race is the only thing that you have constantly talked about. You’re not a tolkien or lord of the rings fan. Your main goal is race and propaganda
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:55 am
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:01 am to
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It’s getting pathetic. The boy who cried wolf. No one will ever take any of you people serious ever again no matter what. This was their goal from the beginning. Have a fallout plan if the show failed or wasn’t well reviewed by the public. Lash out and call everyone of the tolkien fans racist. That will get them to respect us

You white soy boys started a war with the wrong people. We will never bend the knee to you losers. I will die before I ever bend the knee to parasites like you.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 10:02 am
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