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re: 'The Little Mermaid' Official Trailer | Disney
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:57 pm to JasonMason
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:57 pm to JasonMason
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Lol nobody has a Disney+ sub or has watched the little mermaid in the last 30 years.
Only 161 million people in 2023 Q1
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 9:17 pm to putt23
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I didn't read this thread, but brought it up to my wife and she said...
"Well, that's fricking stupid. I mean, when they remade The Lion King they didn't make Simba a jaguar."
That says a lot about your wife. Swapping race is akin to swapping an entire species.
...or she could legit not know the difference.
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 3/14/23 at 9:31 pm to RobbBobb
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He was an employee or an indentured servant. After all, Ariels father was a king. So there would be an expectation that he had servants. Thats what kings do
Or do you think the people working on southern plantations didnt have a foreign accent/language when they arrived?
Great point. As you said, he's a king, he would have foreign people in his kingdom. Also as a king, he would likely take multiple women to be his wife. One of those wives, being a darker skinned women mermaid from another region, thus Ariel is born.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 9:44 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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That says a lot about your wife. Swapping race is akin to swapping an entire species.
...or she could legit not know the difference.
I get what you're saying, I guess. But it isn't supposed to be literal. I don't think she confuses races and species. She told a funny joke.
Don't be a retard. If you don't think it's funny, that's fine. A jaguar is usually black. They didn't turn something black. That's the joke.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:02 pm to putt23
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I get what you're saying, I guess. But it isn't supposed to be literal. I don't think she confuses races and species. She told a funny joke.
Don't be a retard. If you don't think it's funny, that's fine. A jaguar is usually black. They didn't turn something black. That's the joke.
I was kinda being a jerk. My apologies. I think you're mistaking a jaguar for a leopard/panther though, lol.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:19 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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I was kinda being a jerk. My apologies. I think you're mistaking a jaguar for a leopard/panther though, lol.
Nope, fricking hilarious. For sure not a jerk telling me what a jag and panther look like. I was so surprised when she said it. I thought it was the funniest shite she ever said. I just explained it to my wife. I said, "Let me tell ya how retarded we are. You for saying it, and me for thinking you finally were funny.
Jags ain't black.
Goddamn dude my bad I went back and gave ya that upvote
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 3/14/23 at 11:18 pm to Fus0623
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Where the frick is Flounder
You don’t wanna see flounder
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:41 am to Bronc
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My man, our conversation has amounted to little more than this:
I notice you didn't even want to mention the Dumbo conversation because you were wrong and didn't want to own up to it.
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do you really not see why international appeal hits more quadrants than America? Yes there is plenty of familiarity as far as American IP's go, so there is the nostalgia factor too, but there is vastly more potential newcomers to these remakes than you will find in America. Which helps grow the brand.
The international box office is simply bigger now than it was in the 80s-90s and that isn't because new audiences are coming to disney princess movies. Disney permeates the entire globe and you're being a tool pretending the Disney remakes are not made to strike at people's nostalgia. You're pretending there is some vast untapped audience for these remakes. That's not the way it works when the originals are still widely viewed to this day ALL OVER THE WORLD.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:07 am to SlimTigerSlap
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You can't white/black/brown wash something if the original demands all the attention.
That's what you said. So you can explain what that means. It's not a stretch to assume that you are saying the race wash of a character essentially didn't happen because it was not as successful as the original.
That is the spirit of what you said. You actually repeated it here.
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I said you can't [insert color] wash a character/film if the original is more prevalent
So again are you saying the race swap didn't happen because the original is more popular? It's a race swap no matter what happens with the box office of said films. Are you denying you said this?
Every single post in this thread you make lacks any sort of meat to it. Your defense of what you said is "nuh uh. I actually never used those exact words you said." It's almost like your brain short circuits when it comes to context and understanding.
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I said you can't [insert color] wash a character/film if the original is more prevalent, and from that, he decided that I said that if the new films are unsuccessful they "never happened."
So again I'll ask, you said you can't race swap a character if the original is more prevalent. The key word here is can't. If that's the case, how is that materially different than saying if the original films are more successful (prevalent in your words) then the race swaps are not a thing (didn't happen)?
I don't understand if you're trying to play word games or you just aren't very perceptive.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:18 am to JasonMason
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The international box office is simply bigger now than it was in the 80s-90s and that isn't because new audiences are coming to disney princess movies. Disney permeates the entire globe and you're being a tool pretending the Disney remakes are not made to strike at people's nostalgia
You are literally just repeating yourself
We already had this strawman exchange
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Are you under the impression that because the originals didn't have world wide releases that the original characters are unknown?
Again, you need to sound out your words and learn to read, this is the 4th time repeating myself:
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Most of these films when they hit, hit because of international audiences. And a lot of those territories are not going to be awash in Disney culture the way America is. Let alone for a film from the 1980's that mostly released here.
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I guess cause you love to argue by playing stupid, but do you really not see why international appeal hits more quadrants than America? Yes there is plenty of familiarity as far as American IP's go, so there is the nostalgia factor too, but there is vastly more potential newcomers to these remakes than you will find in America. Which helps grow the brand.
If you truly think Disney is 100% going for a nostalgia play, domestically focused, and not also banking on brand expansion, penetration, and revitalization, especially internationally, and that international markets are a major component to that, I don't know what to tell you but that you're an idiot.
As for Dumbo, there isn't anything left to say. You cant seem to grasp that total product revenue consists of more than just Box office and because of that, it's not certain whether Dumbo broke even or not, but its possible it didn't. However, that conversation was about some other idiot claiming Disney loses money on these films and they only exist to spread wokism. Which is horsehit. These remakes have made something close to 8 Billion globally, not counting all the non-BO revenue streams that Disney doesn't disclose.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:17 am to JasonMason
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I said you can't [insert color] wash a character/film if the original is more prevalent
So again are you saying the race swap didn't happen because the original is more popular? It's a race swap no matter what happens with the box office of said films. Are you denying you said this?
I think maybe we disagree on the difference between wash and swap. You're using the words interchangeably (not sure if on purpose or lack of comprehension). I lean towards the idea washing erases what was before.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 11:21 am
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:46 am to SlimTigerSlap
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I lean towards the idea washing erases what was before.
Ok. If that's the case, then I can see where we are talking past each other. I believe color washing or race swapping are the same thing, but if you don't then I do think it changes the context of what you said.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:48 am to Bronc
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so there is the nostalgia factor too, but there is vastly more potential newcomers
No.
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so there is the potential newcomers factor too, but there is vastly more potential nostalgia to these remakes
FIFY
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:50 am to JasonMason
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Ok. If that's the case, then I can see where we are talking past each other. I believe color washing or race swapping are the same thing, but if you don't then I do think it changes the context of what you said.
Have an upvote. Friends at last.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:50 am to SlimTigerSlap
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Friends at last.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:01 pm to JasonMason
You truly are gonna try and spend a third day attempting this three-card monte hustle with my words huh? I mean you know any person with more than three braincells can see how you deliberately cherry-picked that sentence to remove the full context, correct?
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I guess cause you love to argue by playing stupid, but do you really not see why international appeal hits more quadrants than America? Yes there is plenty of familiarity as far as American IP's go, so there is the nostalgia factor too, but there is vastly more potential newcomers to these remakes than you will find in America. Which helps grow the brand.
I've said it before, but when people intentionally play stupid to try and win arguments, don't be shocked when people begin to confuse you for an actual simpleton.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:06 pm to SammyTiger
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You don’t wanna see flounder
You're not lying. Everyone is talking about Ariel's skin color. But this monstrosity is what deserves all of our outrage.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:20 pm to Bronc
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Bronc
No.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:22 pm to QJenk
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You're not lying. Everyone is talking about Ariel's skin color. But this monstrosity is what deserves all of our outrage.
I mentioned this a few pages back, but this is one of the reasons I think the animated versions will always be superior. There are things you can do in animation that you can't get away with in these live action remakes with cgi. It loses some of the personality and the color. Just look at the difference between those two images. It's easy to see why kids would prefer the one on the right.
Flounder in the animated version is a formed character. In the new version, he just looks like a fish.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
Surely we have reached peak woke remake, with black Ariel?
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 2:04 pm
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