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re: The Last of Us S2 E2 | Through the Valley | NO GAME SPOILERS/DISCUSSION

Posted on 4/23/25 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 5:10 pm to
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Most of us just dont subscribe to YouTubers and form/reaffirm our opinions of things based off of theirs.



Most folks aren't cool either.



YT is just another means by which to gain information. But not from Corporate mouthpieces or phony shills. Just real folk who usually have some background or experience in their fields of interest.

And you try to make that sound like a bad thing?


You do you.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 5:16 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:25 pm to
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Why wouldn’t Jackson use that cabin Abby’s group was at as an out post or something? It in clear line of sight to Jackson. They could have built it up to sort of like a barracks.


Maybe seemed like it may have been too far out to be used as such cause you'd also need 24/7 guarding. It may have been a check in station for one of the ranger teams was used on a run this time.
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:36 pm to
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Why wouldn’t Jackson use that cabin Abby’s group was at as an out post or something? It in clear line of sight to Jackson. They could have built it up to sort of like a barracks.

that's true. they shouldve made it further away because of the town being able to see the smoke from the fire at least, but i'm sure it was done that way for time/budget reasons.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:47 pm to
That place was also far too clean for being an abandoned building
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:25 am to
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No it just shows how poorly you comprehended that scene. It's not a girl boss moment it pretty obviously shows how Ellie is pissed off at everyone and how she's making mistakes. Which of course is later confirmed when she nearly gets herself killed later on. She's not supposed to come off as some badass there that's on you for assuming that. She's acting out and everyone is calling her out on her shite
The scene didn’t bother me but holy shite man.

You’re insane.

Sure, he had an opportunity to potentially knock her out with a punch that he pulled a little bit during a sparring match. That doesn’t change the other 99% of it where she was a fricking BEAST and unbelievably hard to handle.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:26 am to
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That place was also far too clean for being an abandoned building


And a gas burning fireplace I was like come on, throw some real logs in there at least.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:58 am to
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I get Abby wanting revenge but it kind of makes zero sense that she would have this crew of people that are ok going to the ends of the earth on this revenge tour with her. Especially with her being a boss bitch to them the entire time. I can see it working in a video game, but it didn't work in the show. It just felt dumb that they were willing to do all that.
I agree.

Hell it was hard to believe she’d torture him as long and brutally as she did knowing she has this rock solid code that even let her spare the girl even though the girl is CLEARLY going to be hunting them down after what they made her watch.

But all the others being cool with it? Absolutely not. That was ridiculous.


Do they not know what the dad doctor was going to do?(also, what was he going to do? lol)

They have no clue the girl is immune? What do they think they whole surgery thing was for in the first place?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:01 am to
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So I’ve played the game and watched episode 2 and it just dawned on me. Why wouldn’t Jackson use that cabin Abby’s group was at as an out post or something? It in clear line of sight to Jackson. They could have built it up to sort of like a barracks.
I asked my gf this the SECOND they introduced the place. There’s really no folks from town using this as an outpost? It’s got full view zoomed in view of the town for Christ’s sake.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:05 am to
there are hundreds of cabins/houses just like that in the jackson area...shite theres an entire ski resort on top of the neighboring mountain
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:05 am to
My ignorance bites me again

Thank you
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:23 pm to
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her spare the girl even though the girl is CLEARLY going to be hunting them down after what they made her watch.

They said earlier that they didn't want to harm anyone else it was only about Joel. And as far as they know Ellie and Dina have zero idea who they were especially where they are now. Abby and her crew at least had leads on where Joel might be due to Tommy being a former firefly the same can't be said for Ellie
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:28 pm to
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That doesn’t change the other 99% of it where she was a fricking BEAST and unbelievably hard to handle.

Most of the fight she was losing up until she got a leg lock around his neck this was right after he pulled a punch that would have knocked her out.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:49 pm to
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They said earlier that they didn't want to harm anyone else it was only about Joel.
They did.

But doctor’s daughter turned into a fricking psycho torture expert. Clearly out of her mind to the fullest degree.

The doctor was murdered to save the girl. They had to risk their lives to go find Joel. This girl safety was the entire purpose of Joel’s existence at this point. She saw what they did to him. And now she’s going to be after them in this frigid zombie apocalypse.

Bro they’d have killed her. It makes NO sense that they didn’t. If they are THIS true to their code, they wouldn’t have let this Karen mutilate a man who they have to know was saving a little girl for a solid reason. It just makes no sense.
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:59 pm to
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It makes NO sense that they didn’t. If they are THIS true to their code, they wouldn’t have let this Karen mutilate a man who they have to know was saving a little girl for a solid reason. It just makes no sense

It makes a lot of sense they have zero idea who Joel is other than he was a crazy man who slaughtered their friends and killed Abby's dad. Hell it's pretty unlikely they even knew that the surgery would be fatal and they certainly aren't aware that Ellie is that girl. We as the viewers are privy to a lot more information than they are. All they wanted to do was to kill Joel and get the hell out which is what they did
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:19 pm to
That’s makes sense.

I know I’m complaining, but I loved the episode and it’s gotten me more into the show. I’m more excited to watch after seeing it, which seems opposite of some. Especially those watching for Pascal

Don’t tell me, but are we about to get a wild revenge thriller? I’d like that.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:48 pm to
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know I’m complaining,
Nah you're good and hardly the first person to bring that up the same debate was brought up during the second game coming out.
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but are we about to get a wild revenge thriller? I’d like that.

Not going to answer that but will say there's a reason why this story is split into two seasons. It's large and pretty complex theme wise
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:28 pm to
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The doctor was murdered to save the girl.
no
the doctor was unarmed and no threat
it was murder, for no reason
Joel knows that, Abby knows that, her crew knows that. That’s all that mattered in that room
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:18 pm to
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Especially those watching for Pascal 


He kinda carries that show though
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:33 pm to
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He kinda carries that show though


It sounds like we’re going to get some flashbacks with him, so that may be enough for some folks.

Game of Thrones broke me of getting attached to Pascal’s character so I can handle it.
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:40 pm to
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the doctor was unarmed and no threat


I think Joel made a very quick moral judgment. He didn't have a gun, but he was about to knowingly kill the girl.
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