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re: The Last of Us | S1, Ep 9 Season Finale | NO GAME SPOILERS Thread
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:55 am to Yeti_Chaser
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:55 am to Yeti_Chaser
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I'm sure I'll catch hell for this because on the M/TV board you have to like every show apparently. But I probably won't watch s2
It's not that you'll catch hell, but you have to understand that no one really cares what you do or don't watch.
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:56 am to lsunurse
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It was made pretty damn obvious that the surgery was going to kill her. I don’t see how anyone can watch that and think otherwise
People come here and complain about the show but miss obvious information because they are playing on their phones half the time.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:57 am to iwyLSUiwy
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I need to read the thread but was the surgery going to kill Ellie?
Yes.
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Joel only cares about himself and Ellie
I don't think Joel cared about saving the world. To him, the world is lost and there's no going back. He wants to save Ellie and have her live a "normal" life. I do believe Ellie knew what was in store for her on the operating table but I've made that known already.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:58 am to LSUZombie
I mean they only talked about having to completely remove her brain for the surgery but hey that doesn’t mean it will kill her right?
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:59 am to lsunurse
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I mean they only talked about having to completely remove her brain for the surgery but hey that doesn’t mean it will kill her right
Have you seen our President?
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:02 am to lsunurse
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I mean they only talked about having to completely remove her brain for the surgery but hey that doesn’t mean it will kill her right?
What the hell, I was super tired when I was watching it, I seriously must have dosed off
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:07 am to Funky Tide 8
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I get that Ellie wanted to be the cure, but I don't believe she wanted to sacrifice her life.
I have to disagree, i do think ellie would have. Joel lies to her because he cant take having her hate him for it.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:07 am to iwyLSUiwy
Well now you see why Joel lost his shite 
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 11:08 am
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:28 am to lsunurse
Yep, definitely changes things. Definitely need to rewatch the last 20 minutes or so.
Me, being dumb, did not give any thought to it possibly mean giving Ellie's life for a possible cure throughout the show. But I feel like Joel probably should have. After episode 8, when there was clearly a much stronger connection between the two, Joel should have just turned around and went back to Tommy. Ellie probably would have insisted that they keep going but if you take her there, don't be surprised at the end game. If I'm Joel, I couldn't have kept going after what happened in episode 8.
Definitely need to rewatch the last 20 minutes or so. Me, being dumb, did not give any thought to it possibly mean giving Ellie's life for a possible cure throughout the show. But I feel like Joel probably should have. After episode 8, when there was clearly a much stronger connection between the two, Joel should have just turned around and went back to Tommy. Ellie probably would have insisted that they keep going but if you take her there, don't be surprised at the end game. If I'm Joel, I couldn't have kept going after what happened in episode 8.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:33 am to iwyLSUiwy
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NEWS: Neil Druckmann and Craig Mazin reveal the events of #TheLastOfUs Part II will take place across multiple seasons.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:34 am to LSUPERMAN
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I don't think Joel cared about saving the world. To him, the world is lost and there's no going back. He wants to save Ellie and have her live a "normal" life.
Not too long ago he was telling Tommy how important she was for mankind and was almost willing to give Ellie into Tommy's hand to make sure that could be seen through. For the majority of the show his motivation for carrying her was for a battery/his own reasons and potentially finding a cure. It wasn't until the very end did it become just about saving Ellie/possibly having a normal life. I mean, the very very end.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:32 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Didn’t you say he wouldn’t ever use an AR because the show has an agenda against automatic weapon usage? Stop it.
This reinforced what i said, you - stop it.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:33 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I feel like there was an all time great pilot episode that blew me away, one to two more great episodes, and the rest were just meh with one completely useless episode.
I loved the first two, and episode 6. Everything else was whatever.
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I need to read the thread but was the surgery going to kill Ellie? Because if it wasn't going to kill her, it was the biggest overreaction of all-time on Joel's part. He wants to get Ellie there to help find a cure the entire series but now that they are actually going to try and do it, he wants to murder everybody in the building. Including innocent people that can't be justified.
I don’t know where this all started that they were gonna take out her brain and she was definitely going to die. My interpretation of that scene was that it was a dangerous surgery, with the doctor removing Cordyceps from her brain. I think all the stuff about she was going to die and they were taking out her brain are just people defending Joel.
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I can see that being a good ending to a video game, it definitely played out as one, but in fake reality it was pretty dumb.
Exactly how I felt. As an ending to a video game, fine. Felt like a big ol bag of nothing as an ending to a season of tv.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:34 pm to landrywasbeast30
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There is no defense of Joel. Everyone on the Inside the Episode said that being the cure was her purpose in life, and Joel betrayed her and took that from her. When he tells her they can just turn around and go find Tommy, she literally tells him she is seeing this thing through to the end. The only reason Joel has somewhat of an out is because the Fireflies didn’t give Ellie a choice. The problem with this, is that Marlene told Joel they could let Ellie decide. He proceeded to murder her anyway, then lie to Ellie. That cancels out any idea that Joel did the right thing and is a hero. The guy is a psychopath and did what he did for his own selfish reasons. He couldn’t lose Ellie.
You just missed the whole point of the fricking show, huh? This isn’t nearly as black and white as you painted it and you know that.
You clearly don’t empathize with Joel and what he’s gone through. Otherwise, you’d hesitate on calling him a psychopath.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:38 pm to caro81
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I have to disagree, i do think ellie would have. Joel lies to her because he cant take having her hate him for it.
But we don’t know that. She’s never given the choice. Do people actually believe Marlene was going to give Ellie a choice?
Marlene is a bad bitch and is willing to do anything just like Joel. You don’t think she was just saying that shite? Even if Ellie decided against it, she was going into surgery and the Fireflies knew that. Joel knew that. Neither Joel nor the Fireflies are RIGHT in this situation which is the whole point.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:38 pm to lsunurse
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Did you not watch all the way to the end of the episode? They went back to Wyoming to the town where Tommy is.
He was still seething over all the “gay stuff” of this season to pay attention to something like that
I did not realize Wyoming was "home" and where both Ellie and Joel were from. When I go "home" it's not usually some place I have been to once for 2 days. I don't think it has anything to do with the grooming aspect of the storyline. I know you guys love grooming and shite but I digress. I said it was a good episode and you snowflakes still bitch.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:41 pm to lsunurse
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I mean they only talked about having to completely remove her brain for the surgery but hey that doesn’t mean it will kill her right?
Yeah that’s absolutely not what was said. Maybe rewatch the scene. When Marlene says “he’s going to remove it from her”, she was talking about Cordyceps. She wasn’t talking about removing Ellie’s brain and killing her. I took it to mean something akin to removing a tumor from the brain.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:44 pm to WicKed WayZ
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She’s never given the choice
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But we don’t know that
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Do people actually believe Marlene was going to give Ellie a choice?
No, but she could have convinced her it was the only way. Like you said, not black or white.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:48 pm to landrywasbeast30
if im remembering the scene correctly i think marlene says they will remove the infection. Joel says something to the affect of "but the fungus infects the brain". Marlene doesnt say what the two + two adds up to and remains silent. its pretty strongly insinuated.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:48 pm to landrywasbeast30
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Yeah that’s absolutely not what was said. Maybe rewatch the scene. When Marlene says “he’s going to remove it from her”, she was talking about Cordyceps. She wasn’t talking about removing Ellie’s brain and killing her. I took it to mean something akin to removing a tumor from the brain.
And right after she says that Joel is the one that mentions that Cordyceps only grows in the brain. At that point is when Marlene talks about it’s the only way and that Ellie won’t feel any pain, etc. It is clearly implied Ellie will die in surgery.
Also….you think in that world….where they are using an abandoned post apocalyptic hospital…..you can cut out massive chunks of someone’s brain in surgery and they live?
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