re: The Force Awakens trailer confirmed; Official ingame thread

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I guess with thousands of years of technology you can make space ships that fly as well in atmospheric conditions as they do in zero gravity.

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They must have gotten the quantum data.

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midichlorians

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In the OT they made it seem as if using the Force were a form of faith or even a skill. They equate its use to a religion, and its power being part of every living thing in the galaxy.

Then out of nowhere Lucas gets cute. Suddenly, only some people are very strong in the Force. It has little to do with practice or belief, but is now centered around concentrations of a symbiotic organism in their bodies.

Perhaps you can say that these symbionts are good way to help explain the ability to manipulate things around them. I guess that is more believable than the Force simply being magic. What really bothers me is that only some individuals are even Force sensitive. This completely destroys the original notion that one must simply trust in the Force.

Well I don't disagree about midichlorians at all. But in the originals only some are force sensitive. And some more than others. And it seemed to be inheritable somehow. I always thought that strange for something based on faith/feelings/concentration.

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. I hope they go with the two hand style for now, as Ren and Finn shouldn't know shite about lightsaber style.

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How the lightsaber battles happen always bothered me. They fight like they have swords in their hands and always go for body hits. You have a beam of light that can cut through anything. I think the fighting style would be different. A lot of pokes and retreats.

The amount of nerd in this thread is impressive.

It's taken me three days, but reading through this has been interesting.

I think you guys know more about Star Wars than I know about anything.

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Perhaps you can say that these symbionts are good way to help explain the ability to manipulate things around them. I guess that is more believable than the Force simply being magic. What really bothers me is that only some individuals are even Force sensitive. This completely destroys the original notion that one must simply trust in the Force.

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Even during the OT, I always assumed that only some people were able to use the Force. Most of the EU (now noncannon) subscribed to that as well. The Midichlorians just gave us a ridiculous scientific explanation to what before was a really cool, mysterious mystic power.

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Well I don't disagree about midichlorians at all. But in the originals only some are force sensitive. And some more than others. And it seemed to be inheritable somehow. I always thought that strange for something based on faith/feelings/concentration.

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Some are Force Sensitive, some are not. Some that are Force Sensitive are more talented than others.

IE: Leonard Fournette has ingrained talent, but is better by how hard he works at it.

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Goes right to the age-old adage that it's actually best to leave some things unexplained.

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I mean, did it even need to be explained? Did anyone care?

I think this was a classic case of George getting too far gone and not having anyone in his inner circle that could reign him in.

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Among all the garbage that the prequels were, midichlorains were the thing I liked the least, because it ruined for kids everywhere the thing about Star Wars I liked most as a kid: imagining that the Force was real and was this spiritual power that I too could tap into, if only I tried hard enough or believed enough.

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Eh, the midichlorian thing didn't really bother me that much. Before Episode I, I assumed that the force was strong in certain people and some just might not have it at all. It at least gives a clue about how potential Jedi were found. And it at least somewhat explains the Yoda and Obi Wan conversation on Dagobah.

Obi Wan says Luke is their last hope and Yoda says there's another (Leia). Well, if the force was just something you had to believe in and learn to become really powerful, couldn't they have recruited people from anywhere to just become powerful Jedi, regardless of their background and try to defeat Vader? If anyone could learn to use the force and become powerful, why didn't Obi Wan try to recruit some in the 20 years between Episodes III and IV? With more Jedi, it would have at least given them better odds of defeating Vader.