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re: The Flash Season One Thread

Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:22 am to
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:22 am to
First off I have never seen a single episode of Arrow but I did record Flash. Will I be confused because I haven't seen arrow and overall how was the pilot?
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:27 am to
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First off I have never seen a single episode of Arrow but I did record Flash. Will I be confused because I haven't seen arrow

No, you can actually start Flash and Arrow and not be too lost. The show runners of Arrow have stated that this season will be a good one for new watchers to jump in the show since they have basically tied up all of the story lines from the first 2 seasons, and the story lines going forward will basically be new ones.

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and overall how was the pilot?

I thought the Flash pilot was pretty darn good overall. I think you'll enjoy it.
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:39 am to
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The Flash/Arrow rooftop meeting was badass. Especially the mutual "cool" when they left.


Nah that lame. The mutual cool thing made me want to throw up

The rest of the pilot was decent
Posted by Tedock
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:52 am to
Ratings are in, The Flash was the CW's highest rated debut since the Vampire Diaries launched in 2009, garnering 4.5 million viewers and a 1.8 demo rating. It actually beat out Agents of SHIELD which had 4.4 million viewers and a 1.6 demo rating.

Ratings
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:55 am to
Wow. DC>>>>Marvel
Posted by Darkknight
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:59 am to
Uh oh! Since both are on the same night, do I sense the beginnings of a ratings war, like Raw vs Nitro in the 90s?
Posted by Tedock
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:13 am to
I doubt it, as good as the ratings for The Flash are they're bound to drop week to week. Arrow pulls anywhere from 2.3 million to 3.1 million week to week, I would expect The Flash to average somewhere a little higher than that. Getting over 4 million viewers a week would be considered a HUGE success for The CW who's viewership is considerably lower than the major networks like Fox, CBS, NBC, and ABC.

Agents of SHIELD and Flash are in different timeslots too so they really arnt competing with each other. Regardless though it doesnt seem like we need to worry about The Flash getting a second season.

What I really look forward to is seeing the ratings for the Arrow/Flash crossover episodes. If The CW was smart they would be promoting that shite like crazy.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 11:14 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:52 am to
From it's pilot episode to second episode, SHEILD lost more than half of it's viewers.

I think that Flash will keep a slightly larger percent because:
A) It was a better pilot.
B) SHEILD had tons of sampling based on the Marvel superhero movies, but it's not a superhero series.
Posted by Tedock
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:13 pm to
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From it's pilot episode to second episode, SHEILD lost more than half of it's viewers.


Actually it went from 12 million viewers to 8 million viewers but its kept up a pretty steady decline since then. Your right about why Agents saw such a huge drop off though, most of the casual viewers tuned in to see superheroes and left when Captain America and Iron Man didnt show up.

Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:54 pm to
so my off the wall theory on the professor is it could be Jay Garrick. These shows take a lot of liberties with characters and mold them for whats best for the show.

the newspaper at the end pointing to a future "crisis" is my basis for the theory. it hints at another dimension/world, which Jay Garrick is originally from (Earth-2). They could use this as his intro into this world and he is seeking Barry Allen to help prevent this crisis.

Zoom just seems way too obvious.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:05 pm to
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Your right about why Agents saw such a huge drop off though, most of the casual viewers tuned in to see superheroes and left when Captain America and Iron Man didnt show up.


Not to mention that season 1 pretty much sucked until Cap 2 happened.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:09 pm to
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so my off the wall theory on the professor is it could be Jay Garrick.
But why hide his identity from him? That is why I think he is one of the Reverse-Flashs.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:20 pm to
because barry JUST came into his abilities? idk yet. it very well could be one of them. they have a lot pointing to that. but why show so much in just the pilot then? when that reveal happens everyone will be like "yeah...we know."


eta: one easter egg i did not catch until last night was the report on the tv was Linda Parker, wally's wife pre-52.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:22 pm to
Also on that paper Wayne Tech and Queen Inc had a merger
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:33 pm to
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because barry JUST came into his abilities? idk yet. it very well could be one of them. they have a lot pointing to that. but why show so much in just the pilot then? when that reveal happens everyone will be like "yeah...we know."
Well, the only people who would really know are those who know about the comics. Non-readers would just wonder why this guy had a future newspaper that said something about The Flash vanishing and think that he was helping him prevent that and wonder why he lied about his ability to walk.

The only reason I expect him to be Reverse-Flash is because I know the character's backstory.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:35 pm to
good point. i guess i cant speak for non comic people, but usually when a guy is helping but lying about something (like being crippled) and has a weird item (like a future paper) it raises red flags that he might be a villain.

im looking forward to seeing where his character goes.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:38 pm to
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good point. i guess i cant speak for non comic people, but usually when a guy is helping but lying about something (like being crippled) and has a weird item (like a future paper) it raises red flags that he might be a villain.
Yea, it seems obvious, but if you don't know anything about the character, you would just think that he was trying to help The Flash prevent the crisis. At least that is how I'm looking at it from a non-reader perspective.

The lying about his ability to walk is sketchy though. Also, if you notice at the end when it is focusing on the professor's face, the lightning bolts that shot across the screen are yellow, not red.


They really could be fooling me though.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by CM Tiger83
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:09 pm to
Never read a comic book before but enjoyed watching this with my son. What is a reverse flash?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:17 pm to
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They really could be fooling me though.

You never know with these guys (the show runners). They are usually real loose with spoiler info in interviews, yet sometimes those "spoilers" will lead you (well me at least) to think they are going down one path, and then they come back with something just a tad bit different than what you are expecting. I agree that for what they showed us in the pilot, one of the Reverse-Flashes is the most likely (I'm thinking Hunter Zolomon since he was paralyzed in the comics). But I could also see them using the final scene in the Pilot as a misdirection. What we do know from a poster that I saw is that there will definitely be a Reverse-Flash at some point. It'll be interesting to see where they end up going with it even if it turns out to be the obvious scenario they hinted at in the pilot.

Oh, and good catch on Linda Park. I totally missed that one.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:19 pm to
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What is a reverse flash?

A villain from the Flash comics. There were several different characters over the years that took the Reverse-Flash mantel.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 2:22 pm
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