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re: The challenge: Spies, lies, allies

Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:37 pm to
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I get that CT killed that challenge. But I don’t get why people are freaking out about it.


CT single handedly won is why.
Kyle put it perfect. They both got 7, so who did it faster emerald or CT?
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:00 am to
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Also Nelson: “We don’t know what the elimination is gonna unfold down there. Nobody is gonna volunteer theirself.” Close, buddy. But not quite.


Also…”Devin is not an athletic aspect”

I’m not even sure what he was going for with that one.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 8:14 am to
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Also…”Devin is not an athletic aspect”

I’m not even sure what he was going for with that one.


its pretty obvious he meant devin is the least athletic competitor.



since its lies, spies, allies I can see the final elimination as a free for all type kinda like the bunker dynamite daily challenge where they can team up on someone to eliminate them. If this is the case I can easily see devin+kyle recruiting nelson to eliminate CT, or CT circling the vet wagons to eliminate the only remaining rookie, emanuel.

Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 9:03 am to
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CT single handedly won is why.
Kyle put it perfect. They both got 7, so who did it faster emerald or CT?

I know that. I mean about CT "making it look easy." Like the actual challenge didn't seem to be that difficult. The ones that struggled the most were the ones that crawled ever so slowly, or the ones who walked really slowly and kept stopping. Clearly speed was the key to it, and CT just walked/ran fast each time. Devin eventually sort of got it down as well. And the fact that you could grab them to help keep your balance mattered too.

I'm not saying what CT did wasn't impressive (that he did it basically alone). I just mean the actual completion of the course seemed very easy.


Also, anybody checking out the new season of All-Stars on P+? I enjoyed the first one.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 9:07 am to
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since its lies, spies, allies I can see the final elimination as a free for all type kinda like the bunker dynamite daily challenge where they can team up on someone to eliminate them. If this is the case I can easily see devin+kyle recruiting nelson to eliminate CT, or CT circling the vet wagons to eliminate the only remaining rookie, emanuel.

I really hope it's not something that allows the gang-up angle. Just make it similar to the elimination...they all have to compete and the one that loses outright is gone.

But it would suck to get this far and then be eliminated because the rest of the house gangs up on you. It's an unwinnable position, and I generally don't like when they do that, because someone could have played a perfect game, both physically and politically, and then have no (fair) shot at actually making the final.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 9:43 am to
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I really hope it's not something that allows the gang-up angle. Just make it similar to the elimination...they all have to compete and the one that loses outright is gone
Agreed

Don't get me wrong, a challenge style elimination would be best but another thing that would be ver interesting is a public vote, on the spot without allowing anyone to have discussions ahead of time. Whichever guy and girl get the most voted are gone. Making it public would probably never be a go but man, that would create some serious drama going forward.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:08 am to
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I really hope it's not something that allows the gang-up angle. Just make it similar to the elimination...they all have to compete and the one that loses outright is gone.



I can easily see that happening though. it kinda leans on the political aspect when the daily losers don't immediately go to elim its been voting and call outs. I could see good drama from the potential of ganging up for this.

If kyle+devin manage to form a mob to eliminate CT we could see a CT vs the world. also would finally give CT an enemy for future seasons.
CT might want to burn the kyle bridge as he may expect betrayal and recruit eman and nelson. maybe CT is so influential he gets the vets circled up to take out eman who is the next biggest threat in the final anyway. or its a straight forward elim and devin loses outright.

since this is going to occur the same night it kinda nullifies potential in house plotting and will be a more on the fly alliance.

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But it would suck to get this far and then be eliminated because the rest of the house gangs up on you. It's an unwinnable position, and I generally don't like when they do that, because someone could have played a perfect game, both physically and politically, and then have no (fair) shot at actually making the final.


Well all the dudes remaining have been pretty good politically this season. except maybe kyle but he still has devin+emerald looking out for him. nelson is awful politically but has gotten very lucky with cory and logan looking out for him at very important points.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:32 am to
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Don't get me wrong, a challenge style elimination would be best but another thing that would be ver interesting is a public vote, on the spot without allowing anyone to have discussions ahead of time. Whichever guy and girl get the most voted are gone. Making it public would probably never be a go but man, that would create some serious drama going forward.



well by gone do you mean eliminated or sent into elimination via the vote? eliminating by straight vote would be the worst possible idea. But I like the public vote because the one voted in would still probably get to call out anyone. so if you want to vote in CT you better be ready to fight CT. beware whoever is targeted by devin+kyle alliance they are 2/5 votes. nelson/CT/eman will have to vote together, 1 defector would mean either a tie or a majority vote siding with devin/kyle.

D/K are likely to help each other out in the final (like team swaps or grenades etc in prior finals) and more likely to screw over CT/eman/nelson. they would be wise to vote devin because kyle has no shot at puzzles/math in the final. that would be an equalizer for devin in the final to make up for being the least athletic.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:36 pm to
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I really hope it's not something that allows the gang-up angle.


That would be terrible. Those sorts of challenges are always terrible.
Posted by NolaLovingClemsonFan
Member since Jan 2020
2123 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:30 pm to
frick these producers, girls get the physical shite and guys get just a bunch of puzzles.

I think Kyle was probably the pick if I’m Emmanuel. If it’s the same football game, Emmanuel is faster and would beat him, but if it’s a puzzle then you still have a chance as Kyle is an idiot.
Posted by NolaLovingClemsonFan
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:36 pm to
The fake wannabe peanut gallery feud between Nelson and Tori is so dumb.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112870 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Don't get me wrong, a challenge style elimination would be best but another thing that would be ver interesting is a public vote, on the spot without allowing anyone to have discussions ahead of time. Whichever guy and girl get the most voted are gone. Making it public would probably never be a go but man, that would create some serious drama going forward.
Boom
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:37 pm to
Amanda should’ve 100% chosen Nany. I want to respect that she chose Tori, but that was dumb. Stupid move. And of course, Nelson wants her to choose Emy, who has won 37 eliminations this season. Idiot.

Guys, Amanda is a mom. Not sure if you knew that or not. But she has a kid that she’s fighting for. Just FYI.

If Tori was ever worth a shite, she better dominate this elimination.

Okay yeah. They had to use SUPER slow motion because Tori beat her in about 30 seconds.

Nelson: “Amanda, you played that out of revenge. That’s a dumb move.”
Says the guy who wanted her to pick Emy, and also takes being voted in worse than almost anybody else. The first thing Nelson always says when he’s voted in is how he’s gunning for revenge. God, he’s so fricking stupid.

Good news for CT, nobody will want to go against him in this. If this elim isn’t Emmanuel (vote) vs. Devin (choice) then everyone (well, every guy at least) in the game is stupid.

Nelson is big mad that Tori said his name immediately after he said hers. Of course. Hahaa.

I love Emmanuel. It’s no hard feelings. He gets why he was voted in and isn’t mad about it.

Tori is literally wearing a wifebeater with both sleeves on one side. Wtf?

It’s bullshite that the elimination isn’t the same. Or at least that it isn’t physical.

Tori is hilarious. Gives Emmanuel the 15 answer and then is all “stay calm, Devin.” I feel bad for her but just keep your mouth shut.

Emmanuel is the only one who’s not upset to see him go.

I love how Kaycee and Nany keep talking about “winning together.” I’m not sure they understand how winning works.

CT not fricking up his finished puzzle is a rookie mistake. That was dumb.

I love how Kaycee takes off and doesn’t help Nany. She can’t do anything on her own so she’s fricked. And she even was cheating off of CT and still can’t get it.

I like Emy but I feel like I could only be around her for about ten minutes before I’d either go insane or want to kill her.

Kaycee, you weren’t “so close” last season really. You had like a five second lead early on in the final, and also had Fessy on your team and neither one of you can eat nasty shite. Relax.

If you’re CT you almost have to go with Devin if only because of how stupid Nelson and Kyle are. Like they may time out of any puzzles from here on out.

This is the easiest final by far in a long time so far.

Of course you’re mindblown thst its now a team final, Nelson. Because you’re fricking stupid.

Looks like the losing cell has to eliminate each other. I like that twist. And all the better for CT if it’s him against Devin.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:41 pm to
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Boom

Boom?

That’s not what happened at all.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112870 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:55 pm to
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That’s not what happened at all.

Boom may be a bit much but so is this comment.

It was all spot on except the vote wasn't an elimination, but the person voted got to pick a person. Everything else was exactly as I said, so it was pretty darn close, just maybe not "boom" worthy.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 12:39 am to
Damn, these idiots let CT into the final without even seeing an elimination.

I know nobody was going to call him out, but man, just can't a fricking killer like him in there.

I also can't belive how much Nany hid behind Kasey's cock the entire season. It's one of the better polidicking games I've ever seen.

I am glad Nelson made it. He's has the intelligence of a 9-year-old, but he's a good dude.

CT has to be a giant favorite here. Unless he gets saddled with Nany the entire final, I don't see how he loses.

I could also see Emy melting down in the final. I don't think she has any idea what she'd getting into and she may be dumber than Nelson... So unless she has a puzzle specialist with her, she won't advance past the mental parts of the game.

Overall, I don't mind anyone winning but Kacey and Nany.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 1:29 am to
Anybody else think Emy and Devin are going to die in the is final? Because I do. CT probably should have gotten on a team with Nelson if he had the chance, but I guess that's how it fell.

Emy looks heavy-legged and slow. I think she may be a huge anchor.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4398 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:01 am to
Nany making any final just triggers me.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:56 am to
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Emy looks heavy-legged and slow.

Yeah, I noticed that last night too. She has some thick legs and running seemed to be a bit of a challenge for her. And I could see her freaking the frick out about eating nasty shite and being a big anchor for that cell. I hope not though.

quote:

Anybody else think Emy and Devin are going to die in the is final? Because I do. CT probably should have gotten on a team with Nelson if he had the chance, but I guess that's how it fell.


I do think it was a smart move by CT though. If there's any kind of advantage given for finishing legs first, then he and Devin should do well. Since every stop seems to have some sort of puzzle aspect to it, he and Devin should reign supreme. And CT knows that in the end it will come down to strength/stamina, and he can sleepwalk to victory against Devin in that regard. Plus, the way the edited the previews, it looks like the loser of the next leg has to eliminate itself, so he should be able to smoke Devin in a mental or physical challenge.

It also means that Nany and Kaycee will have to eliminate one another too if they lose, which will be hilarious. I bet Nany would even quit to let Kaycee win or something stupid like that.



And I agree that I'm good with just about anybody winning outside of Kaycee and Nany. I am pulling for CT. I actually kinda like Devin now. Love Kyle. Nelson I can't stand but like someone said, he's a good dude at least. I like Tori (although her personality sucks more and more each season). And Emy is okay, though she doesn't have what it takes to win anyway.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 8:34 pm
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6974 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:23 am to
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CT not fricking up his finished puzzle is a rookie mistake. That was dumb


With it being a puzzle plus geography knowledge and flag identification, I could totally see production telling him “don’t knock yours over or we will be here for 2 days.”
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