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re: The Book of Eli *spoiler alert*

Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by barry
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:27 pm to
I just finished watching the movie and i thought it was pretty good. It was obvious that he was blind and memorizing the bible isn't out of the question. As for the fight scenes and everything, of course its a bit of a stretch, its a movie people. Lighten up and enjoy it.
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:33 pm to
There are several scholars, even college students, who can recite the King James Bible in its entirety.

And there's no chance he was blind.

quote:

It was obvious that he was blind


No, obvious that the bible he happened to find was in braille, and therefore he had to learn braille to read it.
This post was edited on 9/10/10 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 4:00 pm to
Remember him clicking at times in the movie? Directly from the actor's mouth in an interview about Book of Eli:

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Denzel Washington: You know, there was a kid during the research that I ran across online by the name of (Ben Underwood). I don't know if you've heard about this kid and in fact he just passed away and he was - he had no eyes but he developed this sort of sonic, you know, clicking sound and he's phenomenal.

If you go online, YouTube (Ben Underwood) and there's some great specials about him and what he's able to do. He skateboards, he plays basketball. He does everything or he did as he's passed away now.


LINK

Posted by boonies
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 4:05 pm to
they had a guy on the History Channel's show with Stan Lee about "superhumans" that had a blind guy that did the same thing. He rode a tricycle basically through parking garage obsticle course without hitting anything. The even had a bottleneck with two cars parked longways about 3-4 apart that he maded it through with touching either one. Pretty impressive
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 4:32 pm to
Whoever thinks he wasn't blind is a MORON.
Posted by LSUnowhas2
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 5:19 pm to
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I thought they made it pretty obvious that he was blind.


It was kind of like "The Sixth Sense." When I was watching it the first time I didn't realize the kid was seeing dead people. Just like when I watched this the first time I didn't realize Eli was blind.

When I went back and watched it a second time it is obvious that he is blind. That is one of the reasons why he is so protective of the book because he doesn't want anyone to know he is blind. Also, that is the reason why he wears his sunglasses so much.
Posted by bomber77
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

no fricking way anyone memorizes the entire damn bible


Plenty of people have, not including me!

Also he read it for like 30 years while he was wandering, no?

quote:

was he blind too?


Yes
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 5:42 pm to
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How many threads can this shitty movie get?


I love this movie. Something about this genre that I really like. One of my favorite films from last year.
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

no frickin way anyone memorizes the entire damn bible
he was channeling God
Posted by Muppet
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

It was kind of like "The Sixth Sense." When I was watching it the first time I didn't realize the kid was seeing dead people. Just like when I watched this the first time I didn't realize Eli was blind.

When I went back and watched it a second time it is obvious that he is blind. That is one of the reasons why he is so protective of the book because he doesn't want anyone to know he is blind. Also, that is the reason why he wears his sunglasses so much.


The film is tailored to make both interpretations seem plausible. I went into the movie having heard from several people that he is blind, and even after careful scrutiny throughout its duration, I was still convinced otherwise at the end.

It makes complete sense if you assume that the bible he found (the only one left, as far as he believes) was in braille, and therefore he needed to learn the braille in order to fulfill his duty. He wasn't given the choice of a bible in plain text, and had to settle on the only one he found. This could also serve as a test of faith, as he proves that he is willing to put forth the effort to learn braille in order to carry out God's will. On the other hand, Carnegie is unwilling to learn to read the bible because of his impatience and shallow hunger for power. You could interpret this as God giving blind Eli a braille bible to protect it from those who would corrupt its message, but again, braille is not impossible to self-teach. Seems like God is putting faith in Eli, rather than ensuring that Eli will succeed.

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one of the reasons why he is so protective of the book because he doesn't want anyone to know he is blind.


He could just as easily be protective of the book because he is unconfident that he has perfectly memorized it. It would be quite daunting to see himself reaching Alcatraz only to have forgotten a passage or exact wording. For a man as faithful as him, exact wording would be paramount. When he gives up the book to Carnegie, he has finally put his complete faith in God that he will be able to relay the message perfectly when he reaches his destination.

I simply think this is a better film if he is not blind. Our only positive piece of evidence pointing to his impairment is that the bible is in braille, and all other inferences and logical connections derive from assuming the ability to read braille makes him blind. I actually think it's a smarter movie is he isn't blind, and I'm kind of disappointed if the writers actually intended otherwise and God is basically holding his hand through this entire journey.

I question God's motivation (as a character in the story). Why would God push Eli along to his destination rather than letting Eli prove that humanity deserves to have faith again? These people turned away from God and destroyed his message. You're telling me that, despite all of the ways in which these people have collectively told God to frick off, he still wants to guarantee that the bible will pass back into common knowledge? It just makes more sense to me that he would view Eli's journey as a trial for humanity, to judge whether it is still capable of faith in God. If not, then there's something contradictory about the way God "historically" operates.
This post was edited on 9/10/10 at 7:12 pm
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 7:18 pm to
you clearly do not get it... even worse that you write all that garbage to back up a wrong theory. You are blind too
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 7:22 pm to
All right, well let's hear it then.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

Muppet



you're thinking too much. The plot is easy to get, hard to believe. He is blind. Period. You are completely over-analyzing it, which I'm sure is a hazard when you deal with philosophical discussions on a frequent basis.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

1) no fricking way anyone memorizes the entire damn bible.


FWIW, memorizing the Qur'an is encouraged in Islam, and it is about the length of the New Testament.

Considering he had 30 years to do it and read it every single night...I can buy it.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 7:48 pm to
like others have posted, there are a significant amount of people that have memorized the bible. It is really the least far fetched thing about this movie.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 7:54 pm to
Well I didn't read the thread yet sooo...
Posted by Muppet
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 7:55 pm to
I'm not really trying to evaluate this as a piece of high art, just giving the writer the benefit of the doubt. If God is acting as a personal guardian in this movie, I think Whitta has misinterpreted the bible.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

I think Whitta has misinterpreted the bible.



which is a pretty common thing people do throughout history.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 11:49 pm to
i know people that can quote the bible with almost 100% accuracy.

if you rewatch it then you will notice that his actions are very subtle, but he does tip off the viewer that he is blind.
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