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re: 'The Acolyte' Megathread: The Grand Finale is now streaming
Posted on 6/19/24 at 12:48 pm to Napoleon
Posted on 6/19/24 at 12:48 pm to Napoleon
I thought it was The Gimp from Pulp Fiction.
I’ve accepted that Star Wars will never be what I hoped for and read about as a kid. There have been a couple bright spots, but several duds as well. An excellent storyline was already written & laid out for them with the Timothy Zahn books.
I’ve accepted that Star Wars will never be what I hoped for and read about as a kid. There have been a couple bright spots, but several duds as well. An excellent storyline was already written & laid out for them with the Timothy Zahn books.
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 12:54 pm to Madking
you can’t drop the act. you’re just this dumb.
“actually it makes sense for Luke ti live with his actual family and have his father’s actual last name because Lucas told me that was the plan”
a galaxy of people and 3 have any connection to Darth Vader and they put Luke on a planet with 2 of them.
There are other holes.
Darth Vader can sense luke is his son, but not Leia?
Leia’s father is hiding her from darth vader but also sends her with the death star plans? Like Vader isn’t going to go looking for her?
This all makes perfect sense if Lucas doesn’t decide Vader is Luke’s father till after S A New Hope blows up and he has a great idea for the sequel
“actually it makes sense for Luke ti live with his actual family and have his father’s actual last name because Lucas told me that was the plan”
a galaxy of people and 3 have any connection to Darth Vader and they put Luke on a planet with 2 of them.
There are other holes.
Darth Vader can sense luke is his son, but not Leia?
Leia’s father is hiding her from darth vader but also sends her with the death star plans? Like Vader isn’t going to go looking for her?
This all makes perfect sense if Lucas doesn’t decide Vader is Luke’s father till after S A New Hope blows up and he has a great idea for the sequel
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:01 pm to SammyTiger
Keep proving your ignorance to the material that’s fine by me.
Your logic would be to lock Luke up in an underground bunker and for the one who locked it to immediately kill himself so nobody can know. Brilliant, you should be a writer.
Leia isn’t sensed by Vader because she doesn’t know her own identity and the force is dormant within her.
Her adoptive father doesn’t send her with any plans. They’re relayed to her ship from Scarif during an impromptu, unsanctioned operation.
Another fail for you
Your logic would be to lock Luke up in an underground bunker and for the one who locked it to immediately kill himself so nobody can know. Brilliant, you should be a writer.
Leia isn’t sensed by Vader because she doesn’t know her own identity and the force is dormant within her.
Her adoptive father doesn’t send her with any plans. They’re relayed to her ship from Scarif during an impromptu, unsanctioned operation.
Another fail for you
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:08 pm to SammyTiger
How can you shite on the writing of the films yet you knight for this show like it deserves an Oscar for best screenplay. Nothing in this show makes sense, it destroys the canon and main purpose of Star Wars of Anakin being the chosen one, and completely forces far left ideologies down your throat for the frick of it.
But, “why did they tell Luke that his dad was a pilot! Horrible writing!”
But, “why did they tell Luke that his dad was a pilot! Horrible writing!”
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:10 pm to Madking
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Your logic would be to lock Luke up in an underground bunker and for the one who locked it to immediately kill himself so nobody can know. Brilliant, you should be a writer.
there are so many good normal options between those two extremes.
Luke could have been raised as Owen and Beth’s kid and never told anything about his dead father. Then maybe he doesn’t want to be a pilot and join the rebellion.
Maybe You send him with complete strangers who adopt him like Leia.
You see how those are good ideas for protecting an infant’s identity. Thats what a normal person would come up with if the they weren’t working backwards from established facts.
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Leia isn’t sensed by Vader because she doesn’t know her own identity and the force is dormant within her.
Why doesn’t Vader sense Leia?
Lucas had a love triangle with fricking Luke and Leia.
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Her adoptive father doesn’t send her with any plans. They’re relayed to her ship from Scarif during an impromptu, unsanctioned operation.
retconned.
Her message was:
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General Kenobi. Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire. I regret that I am unable to present my father's request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack, and I'm afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed. I have placed information vital to the survival of the Rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it. You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan. This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope.
She literally says she was on her way to present her father’s request to him in person.
Oh and that’s in the planet Luke is being “hidden”
lets put both the kids were hiding in the same place with the death star plans. No way anyone ends up on Vader’s radar.
you’re using the retconned logic to defend the plot holes they actively had to try and fill in.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:16 pm to hg
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How can you shite on the writing of the films yet you knight for this show like it deserves an Oscar for best screenplay.
1. I can enjoy the OT despite knowing these things. I would rather have some incongruities in exchange for a cooler story. I can accept that Lucas changed things as he went as as better explanation as some dumb in world excuse. Vader being Luke’s father is worth the payoff. and honestly before the prequels I assumes Vader knew about luke and didn’t care. the reason they never told him anything was because his dad became the second most evil man in the universe. He seems to know who luke is in Empire Strikes Back. No one on screen ever tells him who Luke is, and if you were not reading Star Wars comics who would know
People are bitching non stop about the new movies and shows changing the SW canon when that’s literally been happening since the second movie.
2. I am really not white kncightinf for this shows writing. there are parts i’ve been super critical
off.
3. I will argue till i die that the prophecy from the prequels isn’t the center of star wars no matter what anyone says.
Because the OT existed for 16 years without ever mentioning it. What was at its center then?
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:29 pm to SammyTiger
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People are bitching non stop about the new movies and shows changing the SW canon when that’s literally been happening since the second movie.
they somehow refuse to accept this.
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I would rather have some incongruities in exchange for a cooler story
exactly. nothing should be married to it's canon if it means sacrificing quality.
it isn't real life, it's a fun story. it's supposed to be fun. you can tear apart a lot of shite that happens in movies/shows if you really want to, but why bother? we all know it isn't real.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:42 pm to Corinthians420
Show sucks, but I like Bazil
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:42 pm to Corinthians420
give Disney 30 years for comics and novels and “official encyclopedia” to fill the gaps and everything will also be explained.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:49 pm to SammyTiger
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She literally says she was on her way to present her father’s request to him in person.
His request is to help the Rebels. I believe both canon and legends continuity, her mission is to retrieve Obi Wan Kenobi. Her ship also happens to also obtain the Death Star plans in both continuities.
And legends is awfully convoluted when it comes to those plans. Because so many video games wanted to tell that story.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:19 pm to SammyTiger
lol you’re really reaching. Alleging that every off camera idea is cannon instead of the actual movies and shows just illustrates how weak your arguments are.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:20 pm to SammyTiger
Lying to a kid his entire life usually ends up in a disaster. Your idea would most likely turn Luke into another Vader.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:23 pm to Madking
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I did explain the methodology
you did
the show didn’t
that’s why it’s YOUR theory.
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you’re the one just making wild guesses with the only purpose being to defend this shite.
again, at no point in the show do they say what you’re saying.
you’re making shite up to be mad about it.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:26 pm to SammyTiger
Not mad about it and not making it up. What you’re doing is saying that if the show doesn’t explicitly tell how this works nobody can know or comment on its validity. Once again you don’t seek anything other than to defend Disney. That is your central and only function here.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:26 pm to SammyTiger
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“actually it makes sense for Luke ti live with his actual family and have his father’s actual last name because Lucas told me that was the plan”
a galaxy of people and 3 have any connection to Darth Vader and they put Luke on a planet with 2 of them
As stated before, they're barely his family, Tatooine is a shithole in the Outer Rim of the galaxy and the Empire has a loose grip presence there. It's Hutt space for the most part. The moisture farm is isolated out in the wilderness of a desolate planet. In Ep1, Qui-Gon even states how isolated Tatooine is.
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Darth Vader can sense luke is his son, but not Leia?
He can't sense Luke until Luke taps into the Force to destroy the Death Star. He doesn't sense Leia because she doesn't really know anything about the Force. She resists the mind probe and that's about it. He senses a strength about her, but Vader has no reason to believe he has any kids.
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Leia’s father is hiding her from darth vader but also sends her with the death star plans? Like Vader isn’t going to go looking for her?
He's not hiding her, just who she actually is. Leia is the princess of Alderaan and a young political figure like Padme. As far as the galaxy knows, she's just Leia Organa. She says she's on a diplomatic mission but Vader just knows she's up to something. During the time of ANH, there's a political war going on with Bail and others using the Senate to try to make changes, while the Emperor is trying to dissolve the Senate. Vader is the figure behind the scenes sniffing out the rats forming the rebellion, which Bail is a leader of.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:29 pm to JetsetNuggs
He doesn’t wanna know that stuff. For him ignorance is a feature and knowledge is bad.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:35 pm to Madking
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Not mad about it and not making it up.
All they say in the show is:
Koril Says “I carries them”
The Queen says “I created them” that’s it. Nothing about if Koril’s eggs were used or was something implanted. The even say “Let’s hope the Jedi don’t figure out how the twins were conceived” But they never say how.
so you don’t know.
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What you’re doing is saying that if the show doesn’t explicitly tell how this works nobody can know or comment on its validity.
without know how it works how can you talk about the validity of how it works?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:37 pm to Madking
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lol you’re really reaching. Alleging that every off camera idea is cannon instead of the actual movies and shows just illustrates how weak your arguments are.
everything I said was on screen.
leia’s message is on screen and in that message she says her father sent her.
The Luke, Leia, Han love triangle that’s 2/3 siblings was on screen.
Luke living with his actual family using his father’s last name is on screen.
You’re the one bringing up plot points from Rogue One.
and this is what I do whenever I back you into a corner. you don’t address anything i say and just say im lying.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:38 pm to SammyTiger
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Luke could have been raised as Owen and Beth’s kid and never told anything about his dead father. Then maybe he doesn’t want to be a pilot and join the rebellion.
Beru*
And your problem is that Luke eventually found out about his father?
They told him his father was a navigator on a spice freighter, not a pilot or had anything to do with the rebellion. He had no idea Anakin fought in the rebellion. So, your option here is flawed already, as Luke already wanted to do these things before ever learning his father was involved.
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You see how those are good ideas for protecting an infant’s identity. Thats what a normal person would come up with if the they weren’t working backwards from established facts.
Interesting you're trying to make this argument.
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Why doesn’t Vader sense Leia?
Why would he? He doesn't know she exists. She isn't using the force. He didn't sense Luke until he started using the force and Obi Wan was literally force ghost speaking to him.
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Her adoptive father doesn’t send her with any plans. They’re relayed to her ship from Scarif during an impromptu, unsanctioned operation.
retconned.
Have you forgotten the opening crawl?
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She literally says she was on her way to present her father’s request to him in person.
Yep, the request for him to come to Alderaan and join the rebellion and be his General again.
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you’re using the retconned logic to defend the plot holes they actively had to try and fill in.
You're just making things up and omitting things in order to make your position try and work.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:41 pm to SammyTiger
Yet you described human like birth cycle possibilities. Again when you dismiss everything on the basis of “the show didn’t tell us” you’re simply just shilling.
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