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re: TED BUNDY: Netflix: Conversation with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:36 pm to tigerpimpbot
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:36 pm to tigerpimpbot
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It definitely started him down a dark path. He was killing animals, was a peeping Tom and was breaking and entering at an early age.
But when he ended up committing multiple brutal murders of young women coupled with necrophilia, go directly do death row, do not pass go.
See, that’s what makes Bundy so fascinating. He never really had any documented stories of him abusing animals except for the whole mice story from his defense trying to save his life. All accounts from family and friends was that he was just a normal kid. He found the birth certificate when he was 14 plus had his piece of shite grandpa in his life. I think that guy did some bad shite to Bundy. He was trying to be normal it seemed. He does have the peeping Tom thing but that doesn’t make him a murderer. The break up with that girl is Seattle seems like it’s what sent him over the edge and he just spiraled after that. I think it’s also why he targeted college aged girls. That high school girl was the only break away from his type.
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:21 am to Tigerdew
I think he was grossly mis-Diagnosed. He might have been manic depressant but that guy had multiple personality disorder more than anything. He had evil killer Ted. He had super trial lawyer Ted. He had charismatic charmer Ted. He had impulsive Ted. He was all over the place. He literally seemed to have 4 or 5 personalities in one head.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:31 am to IlikeyouBetty
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LPOTL
quote:Last Podcast On The Left
What does this stand for?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:39 am to Tigerdew
i read the Bundy book a while back that was written by Ann Rule. She was friends with him when they both worked at a suicide hotline and she actually met up with him for lunch several times while he was a known suspect. Based on what I know about the things he did to those women, it's nuts to me that someone would knowingly meet with him like that
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:48 am to Tigerdew
quote:That one lady with the glasses stated that he wasn't as popular as he made himself out to be in the recordings. He also had that situation where he built at tiger trap and a little girl split her leg open in it.
See, that’s what makes Bundy so fascinating. He never really had any documented stories of him abusing animals except for the whole mice story from his defense trying to save his life. All accounts from family and friends was that he was just a normal kid. He found the birth certificate when he was 14 plus had his piece of shite grandpa in his life. I think that guy did some bad shite to Bundy. He was trying to be normal it seemed. He does have the peeping Tom thing but that doesn’t make him a murderer.
quote:The documentary didn't do a great job diving into the details of that. They didn't talk about them getting back together once he returned to Seattle and the brief engagement that he ended over the phone.
The break up with that girl is Seattle seems like it’s what sent him over the edge and he just spiraled after that. I think it’s also why he targeted college aged girls. That high school girl was the only break away from his type.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 8:50 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:58 am to JBeam
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That one lady with the glasses stated that he wasn't as popular as he made himself out to be
He was a 140 lb, 30 year old law student. People act like he was on track to be the first male model Supreme Court Justice.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:23 am to Maximus
Seriously. Don't get the glammer thing.
Dude was a skinny arse scuz ball with a uni brow?
And on more accounts than one, people said he was actually super weird, delusionally over confident in his intelligence and charisma.
People act like it was that hard to get away with this sort of thing, they didn't have DNA type evidence and he wore gloves etc doing it in 4-5 different states.
It's not that implausible given the lack of technology. He also kept getting caught for doing really really stupid shite.
Dude was a skinny arse scuz ball with a uni brow?
And on more accounts than one, people said he was actually super weird, delusionally over confident in his intelligence and charisma.
People act like it was that hard to get away with this sort of thing, they didn't have DNA type evidence and he wore gloves etc doing it in 4-5 different states.
It's not that implausible given the lack of technology. He also kept getting caught for doing really really stupid shite.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:40 am to Tigerdew
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That high school girl was the only break away from his type.
Well, this isn't true.
Now, his type was overwhelmingly college aged girls, pretty, with long brown hair parted in the middle - like that first "love" of his.
But, his compulsions had him "break" type at least a few times. I think you're referring to Debra Jean Kent, a Utah victim he followed after she left a school play. She was actually 17. But there was also 16-year old Nancy Wilcox (also in Utah), 15-year old Susan Curtis (probably a target of opportunity as she was attending a youth conference at BYU), as well as the 2 junior high girls (Lynette Dawn Culver of Idaho and Kimberly Leach of Florida, both 12).
In fact, 1975 saw him "evolving" as only Curtis was in his usual hunting terrain (University or School) and none were "college" girls - Culver was very young, 12, Cunningham and Oliverson were somewhat older for Bundy, 26 and 25, rather than that stereotypical 17 to 23 that was his norm.
You also saw the Florida "binge" with him reverting to his early method of just bludgeoning in their sleep (all except Leach) - the frightening thing about the Chi Omega is that he completed 4 attacks, including 2 fatalities in ~15 minutes with 30 potential earwitnesses sleeping nearby and nobody heard anything. Just 1 brief eyewitness got a second or so glance.
He was very good at killing young, unsuspecting women. Apparently he had a lot of pride about this skill.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 10:42 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:29 pm to Fewer Kilometers
To the people saying that Bundy was successful only due to the lack of tech and communications of the time... He dealt with the tech of his time. If he was doing this shite today, he'd be a guy who is aware of DNA evidence, phone pinging, inter-jurisdiction communication, etc. and would alter his methods to try to avoid immediate capture.
It's not like we stopped having crime as soon as police were linked by the internet and gained the opportunity for DNA evidence. We still have serial killers.
Saying, "Bundy only got away with it because of the lack of modern technology" is like saying "The North never would of won the Civil War if the South had bi-planes".
It's not like we stopped having crime as soon as police were linked by the internet and gained the opportunity for DNA evidence. We still have serial killers.
Saying, "Bundy only got away with it because of the lack of modern technology" is like saying "The North never would of won the Civil War if the South had bi-planes".
Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:45 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Eh he was a pretty sloppy serial killer even taking the time period into account
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:08 pm to WicKed WayZ
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Just finished it. 4th episode is where it got me. Where Bundy was cross examining the FSU officer and asked him to recall what the crime scene looked like in explicit detail
Imagine what type of questions he would have asked to the one girl that escaped and pointed him out in the court room.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:12 pm to JBeam
His interviews with James dobson from prison are far more interesting than this crap.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:24 pm to Fewer Kilometers
hitting the targets he did, I don't think he gets away with it for as long as he did.
maybe if he stuck to killing hookers or something
maybe if he stuck to killing hookers or something
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:25 pm to BilJ
not to mention all the secks he had with most that he killed. I mean they'd find DNA in a heartbeat on the first victim if he were operating today.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:27 pm to Dawgirl
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Imagine what type of questions he would have asked to the one girl that escaped and pointed him out in the court room.
No way any judge would have allowed that under those circumstances.
As it his, the lawyering he got on that 1 witness (which was free, because he was indigent), was A-grade lawyering, without any doubt.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:28 pm to wmr
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"Hybristophilia is a paraphilia in which sexual arousal, facilitation, and attainment of orgasm are responsive to and contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage, cheating, lying, known infidelities, or crime—such as rape, murder, or armed robbery."
Some women are literally aroused by men who murder.
In the doc they showed interviews with a couple of women that attended the hearings that were clearly intrigued if not aroused when Bundy would look their way. I think one of them was practically smiling/laughing saying he looked at her and she thought "Oh my God, I could be next." Was strange.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:30 pm to WG_Dawg
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I mean they'd find DNA in a heartbeat on the first victim if he were operating today.
Yeah, there was semen on some of the earliest victims that would have given him away. However, in a DNA environment, a 21st Century Bundy might have used condoms.
And, his ability to keep most victims' remains out of law enforcement hands until they were relatively useless is pretty impressive.
The selection of targets (pretty white school girls, not hookers or transients) and his disposal of remains put him into the top tier of serial killers. These abilities and successes bely the fact he kept getting into trouble for the stupidest of reasons.
What the Netflix thing glosses over is that Ted had no visible means of support. Another aspect to his "control" personality is that he stole/shoplifted/scammed almost everything he ever "owned." So, he got caught in Florida with a bunch of stolen credit cards in a stolen car.
Had he been a little smarter on the non-serial killer side, he might never have been caught.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:31 pm to STLhog
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And on more accounts than one, people said he was actually super weird, delusionally over confident in his intelligence and charisma.
This came across in the documentary to me. Looked like a guy with average intelligence who was clearly self-conscience and tried to overcompensate by being a bull-shitter. He didn't seem like some super-intelligent charismatic guy.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:35 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I knew Ted IRL, He was 100% set up.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:39 pm to elposter
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Looked like a guy with average intelligence who was clearly self-conscience and tried to overcompensate by being a bull-shitter.
From my research of him, I can't say he was average intelligence. His "normal" persona was clearly very intelligent. I also tend to buy into the split/dual personality - to a degree. And that personality was a savant at luring and killing young women. Just the instincts to pick out appropriate targets - just a couple of survivors here and there, so we know he had a very high success rate.
But he did stupid things to get caught - stupid, silly things which suggest his intelligence was not broadly focused, but very narrow based on his particular urges. He did admit to being overwhelmed at law school, so despite admission, there are good reasons he never finished and his "night job" isn't the only one.
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