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re: Tarantino's "Once Upon A Time in Hollywood"

Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:41 pm to
Got our tickets for Thursday. Unfortunately The Lion King will keep it out of the Dolby and IMAX theaters. It’s on the small screens, so not a lot of seats.
Posted by the paradigm
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:47 pm to
I'm a huge Tarantino fan, but there are a few scenes from his various films that made the film drag on longer than necessary. Ones that come to mind are the scene in Reservoir Dogs where it shows Mr. Orange rehearsing his story, and then how the cops enter the bathroom with the dogs, etc... it just drags. Another is in Kill Bill Vol. 2 when Bill starts rambling on and on about nonsensical shite... and in Death Proof, when the Aussie girl and the others are talking on and on about nothing of value. He just tends to overdo it with the dialogue sometimes.

On the contrary, there were scenes cut out of Django (the Scotty Harmony scenes, slaves arriving at Candyland and being shot, the burned nipples scene) that I felt would have made the film even better, although I still enjoyed it.
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:49 pm to
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First of all, your gif doesn't even correspond to your take, bc Jules was implying the coffee was fantastic. Makes me wonder if you even saw Pulp Fiction/understood it. You probably think it's told in linear fashion too. Second, you don't know my age, and I doubt you even understand what proper age group the term "millenial" refers to. Third, saying Pulp Fiction automatically has to be Tarantino's #1 film is like saying "Hey Jude" HAS to be the Beatle's best song. That take is stale and underdeveloped. Fourth, while I love Reservoir Dogs, it has not aged well enough to be up there. It's poor production quality really takes away from the rest of the film as we move further into the 21st century. Everything else holds up tho - even a benign conversation about tipping or Madonna. Fifth, Django happens to be my personal #1, but I think it's hard to argue against Inglourious Basterds being Tarantino's masterpiece. The tension. The dialogue. The acting. All of it combines for the epitome of what makes his films great. It's essentially 5 perfect film scenes - one after another. It's an impressive feat that even the director himself acknowledges is probably his finest work - evidenced by the last line of the movie.


TLDR. Cliffs please.
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:54 pm to
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the paradigm



1) Who is the girl in your avi?? GawdDAMN.

2) None of your examples were from IB, because every scene in that movie is necessarily long, for the tension-building. The guy had the audacity to say IB is "terrible" bc the scenes are "too long." I mean, my god.

3) It's hard to complain about Tarantino dialogue, when that's literally the guy's hallmark. It's like saying Van Halen sucks "because the guitar is too loud."
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2209 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 7:05 pm to
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Tarantino films ranked: Django Unchained Inglourious Basterds Reservoir Dogs True Romance Pulp Fiction Jackie Brown Hateful 8 Kill Bill I & II


Your ranking is bad. Just embrace your poor taste and keep quiet about it. Not just my opinion, here are literally the first 5 lists ranking Tarantino movies by actual critics from a quick google search. Guess which movie is number one on every friggin list?
List 1
List 2
List 3
List 4
List 5

I’m not sure a critic exists who wouldn’t rank Pulp Fiction #1. You are alone, millennial.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 7:07 pm to
Pulp and IB are his top two movies. If you can’t agree with that, go watch some David Fincher crap and beat off.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 8:50 pm to
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If you can’t agree with that, go watch some David Fincher crap and beat off.



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There is no better way to spot someone with poor movie taste than "it was too long." I bet Breaking Bad is your GOAT TV show, isn't it?


WTF is going on in this thread? We have people trying to criticize other posters taste by using fricking David Fincher and Breaking Bad as some sort of insult?

I love pretty much all of QTs movies, and never felt like Basterds was too long, but I also loved Breaking Bad and will watch anything Fincher does
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:04 am to
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I love pretty much all of QTs movies, and never felt like Basterds was too long, but I also loved Breaking Bad and will watch anything Fincher does


I love Fincher, and Breaking Bad as well, but I always viewed Breaking Bad as The Sopranos for entry-level watchers. It's akin to "Friends v. Seinfeld"

...aaaand I'm officially a snob.
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:26 am to
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I love Fincher, and Breaking Bad as well, but I always viewed Breaking Bad as The Sopranos for entry-level watchers. It's akin to "Friends v. Seinfeld"

...aaaand I'm officially a snob.

Nah, you're right. Breaking Bad is a fine TV show, but it's far from the exceptional, top-tier GOAT its fans would have you believe.

It became so popular/revered because it was on AMC, and a bunch of people that hadn't really been exposed to quality television got into it. It's also a perfect show for Kyles - "Yo dude, this guy was a wimp before, but now he's a badass drug dealer!! He BROKE BAD. SO TIGHT!!!"

The knocks against Breaking Bad become really obvious when you binge it.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 8:39 am to
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That is literally the universally-praised attribute of the movie - the incredible tension that is built up over those gradual scenes 


The tension was built and then squandered because the scenes kept going on and on and on and on.

The opening scene in basterds was like that. It was tense for a while, peaked nicely and then the moment was lost because they simply couldn't get on with it.

It's ok that everyone knew it would end with bullets through the floor but when you find yourself saying they need to "just get to it", then the moment is lost. The opening scene went from being tense to a yawner with a predictable outcome.

Basterds was an overly written, overly talky bore.

"Some of the finest performances in the last ten years"? Really? You must mean Christoph Waltz and Mike Meyers because Brad Pitt's no great actor and everybody else was just sorta playing their part.

When Mike Meyers is delivering one of the best performances in a movie, you've got problems.

Basterds was dull. But then again, I'm just an unfrozen caveman lawyer. Your world frightens and confuses me.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58816 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:53 am to
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but I always viewed Breaking Bad as The Sopranos for entry-level watchers. It's akin to "Friends v. Seinfeld"
I’ve been saying that for years
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38630 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:55 am to
I'm not a QT fan. His movies are okay. Good, by no means great. My problem with Tarantino is what most of his fans on here hype - his writing. He's always struck me as a nerd writing how he thinks cool people talk and act. It's hard to define (and is probably just me) but a lot of his dialogue just yells Try Hard! to me.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:23 am to
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but a lot of his dialogue just yells Try Hard! to me.


That's pretty much it.

I'm a big fan but some of these guys border cultish and they can't bear the thought that Quentin Tarantino could make a bad movie. So if you criticize one of them (like basterds which was fricking terrible) they lose their shite and tell you how you have bad taste in film.

Anyway, when he nails the dialogue such as in pulp, it's a thing of beauty and pretty captivating. But when he over does it, like in basterds. He completely loses the moment. He had some tense moments in basterds, didn't act on them at the right time and lost them.

One of the best, most gripping and under appreciated Tarantino scenes was when marquis Warren in "hateful eight" was telling the story of how he marched a bounty hunter naked through the snow and then mouth raped him. That scene lasted only as long as it needed to. The timing was perfect.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 11:25 am
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 4:49 pm to
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I'm not a QT fan. His movies are okay. Good, by no means great. My problem with Tarantino is what most of his fans on here hype - his writing. He's always struck me as a nerd writing how he thinks cool people talk and act. It's hard to define (and is probably just me) but a lot of his dialogue just yells Try Hard! to me.




Spending thousands of dollars a minute to film a scene about talking about what to call cheeseburgers is trying too hard?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:31 pm to
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Spending thousands of dollars a minute to film a scene about talking about what to call cheeseburgers is trying too hard?





No that wasn't trying too hard at all. That entire dialogue had an almost organic feel to it. It flowed beautifully, wrapped up when it needed to and gave us this....


The royale wit' cheese.

My fear with this new movie is Tarantino, in some contrived, forced effort will try and recreate the Jules/Vincent magic in pulp.

I can see it now. Some long car ride or location scene at maybe pinks hotdog stand where DiCaprio and Pitt are contemplating their navels or some shite or babbling waaaaay too long about some inane topic.

This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 8:56 pm to
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when marquis Warren in "hateful eight" was telling the story of how he marched a bounty hunter naked through the snow and then mouth raped him


One of my most disliked (and in my opinion, unnecessary) scenes in a Tarantino film
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:26 pm to
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quote:
when marquis Warren in "hateful eight" was telling the story of how he marched a bounty hunter naked through the snow and then mouth raped him



One of my most disliked (and in my opinion, unnecessary) scenes in a Tarantino film


It was a disturbing and uncomfortable scene without a doubt but it illustrated well what a dark, angry and unforgiving character that was. He was hateful and cruel as shite.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 5:32 am to
Anyone see this yet?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 6:24 am to
I am not a big fan but want to see this, was an interesting era, a lot going on.
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
1840 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:27 am to
Going to see it tonight. I like to temper my hope on movies like these but I can't help but get hyped. A QT homage to early Hollywood? Sign me up.


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