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re: 'Superman' Megathread: Spoilers Allowed! DC News. Releases on Digital on August 15.

Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:04 am to
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:04 am to
so how do we feel about Hawkgirl unilaterally taking out a foreign head of state?

not sure who exactly the “Justice Gang” is beholden / accountable to, but I feel like that was a wild move.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:04 am to
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force Gunn and Reeves to combine their films.



I don’t think that’s going to happen. If anything, and I’ve said this before, I’m almost certain this is the last time we’ll see Pattinson behind the cowl and Reeves directing. I think this is their last go around.

Gunn will readjust and give audiences a break and postpone Batman Brave and the Bold and focus on Superman/Supergirl, Justice Gang, Wonder Woman, etc. I don’t think we’ll get a Batman in Gunn’s universe for a while. Like maybe 2030. But I bet it’s later
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:12 am to
Superman is going to finish in the 500 mil range. It has a budget of 225. You can't tell me with a straight face that that isn't disappointing.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:14 am to
The studio seems pleased with the numbers they’re seeing. What do you know that they don’t?
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:15 am to
I don’t see how Batman works in Gunn’s universe unless his films came first or he’s been around for 10-20 years already.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:17 am to
Is that like when owners give the coach a stamp of approval lol. Look it's just my opinion. I doubt zaslav is greenlighting a 200+ mil budget to make 500+ WW.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:17 am to
The top 5 grossing DC movies have four that are related to Batman. He’s always been the outlier. Absolutely wild to me that this Superman had the best opening of ANY Superman solo movie and you’re just like…meh

I feel like the MCU run of billion dollar hits has rotted your brain
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:18 am to
I don’t think they’ll combine them personally. Reeves’ Batman and villains don’t really fit well in this universe of high-flying heroes. And Gunn has said he doesn’t want to do that

The villains aren’t fantastical enough, it’s more of a grounded mob boss type universe.

I think China will be more interested now that it won’t just be a solo Superman movie. Get Aquaman involved or send them to space and the grosses will be a lot better there
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:20 am to
They knew this. Gunn mentioned the 500 mil range. They knew the foreign market was going to be rough. Did they in the beginning in the budget discussions? No. Probably not.

But they have a popular American film and they’ll have to adjust accordingly.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:21 am to
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I doubt zaslav is greenlighting a 200+ mil budget to make 500+ WW.



Nor should he. Outside of Batman, Superman and Justice League movies, none of them should have a budget over $150+ million.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:21 am to
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feel like the MCU run of billion dollar hits has rotted your brain


On the contrary, I've been arguing for weeks that everyone was overestimating this film. The days of every comic book film being a success are over. Studios have to be more selective, which is exactly why I think Zaslav will want just one universe.

Do you think it makes business sense to spend 150-200 mil for two separate Batman films?
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:23 am to
And Batman can be cheap. Especially the Reeves universe. Easy cash grab there.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:24 am to
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But they have a popular American film and they’ll have to adjust accordingly.



This is the most important thing. Is it going to bring in a billion? No. But it was the first non Batman DC film in a long arse time that most general audiences and critics agreed upon as a good but not great movie that also had a damn strong first domestic weekend.

RLDSC needs to get the stick out of his arse
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:29 am to
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Do you think it makes business sense to spend 150-200 mil for two separate Batman films?


Of course not but they’re not combining them. This is 100% the last Pattinson and Reeves Batman film. Pattinson is pretty selective and probably doesn’t want to get roped into another long series like with Twilight. My bet is that he wanted to do 2-3 and then get out like Bale. He’d probably be fine just with the first and second and be done and move on.

Reeves is also notoriously slow but good writer that doesn’t submit a script unless he’s happy with it, hence why everything has taken so long. That’s not gonna jive with Gunn and company who seem hellbent on being tight with schedules and pumping these films out.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:30 am to
Primary goal of this was to establish Superman for the American audience again and blast everyone in the face that, hey! We have a new universe! Marketing spend is large but isn’t just for this film.

It’s more of an initial investment they think will pay off once they get to the galactic / water set pieces international audiences will want
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:34 am to
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RLDSC needs to get the stick out of his arse


What am I saying that's so bad I just believe Zaslav will want to combine the universes. That's all
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:35 am to
Exactly. As long as they keep the budget under control for Supergirl, WW and the others, they’ll be fine.

Superman and Batman are the only heroes in DC that deserve $200+million budgets. RL is thinking Gunn is gonna green light a $200M Killer Croc movie or some shite
Posted by MemphisGuy
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:39 am to
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What am I saying that's so bad I just believe Zaslav will want to combine the universes. That's all


Well, I mean, you also said "looks like Superman will be lucky to even break even." But whatever.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:43 am to
Budget is 225. If you just do the standard 2.5, it needs 562 to break even. Go review the international numbers, it's falling off a cliff in Asia and Europe. I'm certain this doesn't cross 600 mil. We can revisit in a couple weeks
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:44 am to
It’s pretty obvious why they greenlit The Batman 2 now. The writing on the wall with the foreign market.

They need a good cash grab. You have Reeves over here with his script waving his flag ready to go saying “please please. I can do a Batman movie for 110 million!” Warner Brothers is like yeah we need that lol. But I’m excited for it.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 9:59 am
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