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re: Stranger Things Season 4 official discussion thread. (Spoilers)

Posted on 7/1/22 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by GEAUX5
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 7:49 pm to
Man.. what a season. Last 2 episodes were great. Like a poster said before, when the remix of “Running up that Hill” started playing and it cut to everybody.. just perfect!

So it looks like we’re gonna get another Mind Flayer season?

And the timeline situation didn’t get answered of the upside down, unless I missed it.

I don’t like how people were so close to death and luckily escaped it though. Can’t be afraid to kill off people.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:31 pm to
Best season yet. Incredible.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:55 pm to
They are definitely setting up a 5th element ending with 11 and Mike
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:05 pm to

They said they are also considering a 4 year time jump but not sure how that works with where they left it.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 9:06 pm
Posted by GEAUX5
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:10 pm to
Another thing, the Will to Jonathan talk was extremely awkward … like they just need to come out and say he’s gay. dudes got a huge crush on Mike.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:16 pm to
I’m not done but Will pouring his heart out to Mike in the van and breaking down and Mike was just like “cool, so 11 will still like me”
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:34 pm to
Will is definitely gay after that conversation and Jonathan knows.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:37 pm to
Just came here to post that E4 Dear Billy is one of the best episodes of TV I’ve seen in a while. Incredible.
Posted by dtmb
Member since Mar 2013
709 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:40 pm to
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I’m fairly certain Max is gone.


I wonder if Vecna absorbed her like Brenner was saying to Elle.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79436 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:15 pm to
Will has literally always been gay

Joyce is telling the dad she knows he different in season 1
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:28 pm to
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I’m fairly certain Max is gone. In the hospital, Eleven went mind hopping and couldn’t find Max. The portal opened because Mindflayer is trapped in Max’s body.



Agreed. She’s definitely gone. I think that’s what was being hinted at with El going into her mind and seeing nothing. Probably a vessel for Vecna next season to torment the gang even more. Surprised at the amount of criticism so far. The last two were great. Def a bummer Eddie died. I honestly expected Murray and/or Enzo to bite it too.

You don’t have to kill people off to have stakes in a show as the Duffers just showed. Hawkins is fricked. Demo’s are about to run rampant and the government is going to have to lock it down.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 10:40 pm
Posted by lil tiger22
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2005
6164 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:41 pm to
I thought the final 2 episodes were amazing. I’m still buzzing about them. Some folks just over critical and forget to just be entertained. I might watch them again shortly. Great fricking television
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:45 pm to
Man, Eddie’s uncle got me in the feels. Poor guy.

Dramatic Kate Bush is great, but dramatic Separate Ways is better.

Master of Puppets was fricking awesome. Just the absolute best.

Glad they cleared up that Vecna created the Mind Flayer
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:00 pm to
One thing I did have trouble following was the Mind Flayer bit. Was it just raw sentient power that couldn’t have a form and Vecna just gave it form and then it followed his commands?


Or was it just raw power and he gave it a form and it was basically just Vecna? Or is it its own existence?
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:09 pm to
Agreed. It’s tied with Season One for me.



The book Lucas was reading is The Talisman by Stephen King. That’s definitely gotta be a hint at next season
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
49024 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:14 pm to
I understood it as being a sort of life force that was intertwined with the demagorgons that were more or less benevolent creatures just existing as a hive mind in this dimension. Vecna just used his ability to take control of it and, thus, the hive mind
Posted by Footballtimentn
Member since May 2022
506 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:16 pm to
A couple of theories and thoughts about season 5.

I feel like Max staying alive will be a big key to the season. Since music can repair the broke mind, they can play her song which will trigger the mind awake to have 11 see inside her mind. Since everyone 001 kills becomes a part of him, it may allow 11 to see inside 001’s mind. Idk just a thought.

There has to be importance around the time being frozen in the upside down. I’ll have to think about that one but it could be the key to closing the gates.

Now that the worlds are combined I feel the show shifts from more of a Telekinesis/powers show to more of a physical fight against the bad characters of the upside down.

There was something else Brenner wanted 11 to see before the underground bunker was raided. Without Brenner how will she find out?
Posted by Jar_Jar_80
Member since Oct 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:27 pm to
Man seeing Max get broken like that hit different. With the other characters it was shocking but I didn't have a emotional connection to them like Max. Then her begging for her life at the end was just a gut punch.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:30 pm to
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If they stick the ending, I have this I my top 3-5 shows all-time. Just hits every note right with me.


I was thinking this exact thing as it ended. Season 4 is absolutely incredible and my personal favorite. The scene with Kate Bush as they were all fighting battles was top notch.

Shoutout to my man Eddie Munson though. Dude went out like a champ and had one of the most badass scenes shredding Master of Puppets in the Upside Down.

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The book Lucas was reading is The Talisman by Stephen King. That’s definitely gotta be a hint at next season


Perhaps, but I think it’s just a nod to the next project the Duffers will be working on. In tandem with King and Steven Spielberg, so The Talisman tv series has incredible potential!
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:31 pm to
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There has to be importance around the time being frozen in the upside down. I’ll have to think about that one but it could be the key to closing the gates.


Another thing I noticed when 001 went to the upside down nothing was there, not even Hawkins it seems. Did he create the town? When he was transported the Hawkins lab wasn’t around.
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