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Stowaway (Netflix; spoilers)
Posted on 4/22/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 4/22/21 at 2:00 pm
That movie had a bleak ending, but as bleak as it was on the surface, if you think about it, it’s even darker than that. Ultimately, that surviving crew is going to Mars, and wasting two years of their lives for nothing.
The point of the movie was that a crew of three were going to Mars so that the Hawaii Five-0 guy could harvest his life forms in order to help eventually colonize Mars. But he had to use up their resources when oxygen was running low and killed them. So while the girl from pitch perfect ended up sacrificing her life for the oxygen tank, she sacrificed her life for nothing.
Yeah that crew is going to safely make it to Mars to replenish their resources for the trip home because of her sacrifice, and yeah they will be written in the history books as having reached Mars, but nothing will be accomplished on the mission. The purpose of the mission was to harvest those lifeforms. So in essence, a crewmember sacrificed their life for nothing, and three other crewmembers are wasting two years of their lives to gain nothing.
The point of the movie was that a crew of three were going to Mars so that the Hawaii Five-0 guy could harvest his life forms in order to help eventually colonize Mars. But he had to use up their resources when oxygen was running low and killed them. So while the girl from pitch perfect ended up sacrificing her life for the oxygen tank, she sacrificed her life for nothing.
Yeah that crew is going to safely make it to Mars to replenish their resources for the trip home because of her sacrifice, and yeah they will be written in the history books as having reached Mars, but nothing will be accomplished on the mission. The purpose of the mission was to harvest those lifeforms. So in essence, a crewmember sacrificed their life for nothing, and three other crewmembers are wasting two years of their lives to gain nothing.
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Posted on 4/23/21 at 5:38 am to lsutigersFTW
Spoilers
The entire thing was stupid to me. You telling me a mission to mars didnt have a complete replacement of a 1' x 3' panel that was that important on board?
Also they did a poor job establiahing why time was so important at the end. Why the couldnt just have left both tanks, gone and waited out the storm and then filled them back up.
When a movie goes for the hyper realistic things, they need to not leave glaring holes like "missing person someone how locked in life support" and "have a replacement part for the thing keeping them alive"
The entire thing was stupid to me. You telling me a mission to mars didnt have a complete replacement of a 1' x 3' panel that was that important on board?
Also they did a poor job establiahing why time was so important at the end. Why the couldnt just have left both tanks, gone and waited out the storm and then filled them back up.
When a movie goes for the hyper realistic things, they need to not leave glaring holes like "missing person someone how locked in life support" and "have a replacement part for the thing keeping them alive"
Posted on 4/23/21 at 6:45 am to lsutigersFTW
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the Hawaii Five-0 guy
Sir, I think you mean Lost guy.
Watched this last night. Stupid. Poster above references some of the obvious stupidity. There is no actual end to the movie. How do you make a movie about a 2 year journey to Mars and not only do they not get to Mars, the movie spans a total of 4-5 days? Someone dies when they didn’t realistically have to trying to save someone detrimental to the mission (microcosm of current political climate when you think about it).
This will probably be the last Netflix original movie I watch due to lack of ending and reason for the 90-120 minute movie. I don’t know how someone can produce such good TV shows and suck so bad at producing movies.
Posted on 4/23/21 at 3:57 pm to lsutigersFTW
At first I thought this movie was a "pandemic special" (tiny cast, completely made on a set and in a computer, etc.), but I just looked it up and it was made in the summer of 2019, so it was just a low-budget movie.
It's basically an episode of The Good Place, as they argue over the moral dilemma about killing the black guy or risking all of their lives in a desperate attempt to save him. The problem with casting the only black guy as the stowaway is that in today's climate, the viewer now knows that the black guy is not going to be the one to die.
If he had been a member of the crew, he could be the one to die—but as the black guy outsider, it would have been controversial. 
I wasn't expecting too much from the movie so I didn't regret watching it. I'm tired of how predictable these space movies are with their disasters, but otherwise I bought into the tension of some of the key moments. So it was worth a watch for me.
It's basically an episode of The Good Place, as they argue over the moral dilemma about killing the black guy or risking all of their lives in a desperate attempt to save him. The problem with casting the only black guy as the stowaway is that in today's climate, the viewer now knows that the black guy is not going to be the one to die.
If he had been a member of the crew, he could be the one to die—but as the black guy outsider, it would have been controversial. I wasn't expecting too much from the movie so I didn't regret watching it. I'm tired of how predictable these space movies are with their disasters, but otherwise I bought into the tension of some of the key moments. So it was worth a watch for me.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 9:16 pm to lsutigersFTW
This was a waste of time. I had consumed some cocktails, but was it ever explained how/why he ended up on the flight?
Posted on 4/26/21 at 7:46 am to drjett
I love me some Anna Kendrick but this was just awful. Complete waste of time.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 7:54 am to lsutigersFTW
I wasn't impressed.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:53 am to jvargas
would the extra weight of one person throw off the trajectory that much?
I agree, you would think that one part would definitely have a replacement on board for a two year journey
I agree, you would think that one part would definitely have a replacement on board for a two year journey
Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:50 pm to drjett
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was it ever explained how/why he ended up on the flight?
No, and that's the thing that was so weird to me. He was screwed in from the outside, so someone put him in there. It's like, fricking Bob was screwing on the panel over the CO2 scrubber compartment and forgot to make sure he wasn't pinning a black guy in there again. Sheesh Bob!
And I'm pretty certain CMEs aren't visible in space. The only reason we see northern lights is because the charged particles are exciting gases in our atmosphere.
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:52 am to Chucktown_Badger
Not good at all. And they called the movie stowaway and the guy wasn’t even a stowaway. Dumb.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:55 am to wareaglepete
I think the overall idea of the film had promise, but unfortunately, like so many, it fell short. Too often I think "man, what a great premise. Too bad it wasn't executed better"
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:53 am to drjett
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was it ever explained how/why he ended up on the flight?
If it was, I didn't catch it. I spent half the movie trying to figure out how he was inside a panel that was screwed on from the outside? Someone stuffed him in there and didn't tell anyone? All he said when he wakes up is he was working on something and he thinks he fell? What?
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:58 am to IAmNERD
Something else I just thought of...was he even in the thing that took off? He was in the CO2 scrubber area, which I thought was in the station they docked with. Because the capsule they were all in attached, and then the rocket maneuvered over and attached as well.
And another thing...I love how the only person who was truly qualified/able to do the grueling spacewalk (twice!) was the tiny, weak girl
And another thing...I love how the only person who was truly qualified/able to do the grueling spacewalk (twice!) was the tiny, weak girl
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 4/28/21 at 8:36 am to lsutigersFTW
I hated that movie, struggled to finish it, made no sense.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 8:38 am
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:06 am to DaBeerz
I fast forwarded through the last 30 minutes. Complete waste.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:03 pm to lsutigersFTW
I found some context for this movie from this article:
https://slate.com/culture/2021/04/stowaway-netflix-cold-equations.html
The story is based on a classic sci-fi story called The Cold Equations by Tom Godwin. The original story seems to be a bit more straightforward presentation of the Trolley Problem, because the ship is carrying medicine to cure a disease ravaging a distant colony (do you save the stowaway at the expense of not being able to deliver the medicine?).
Apparently the original story suffers some of the same criticism that people here have of the movie:
While I understand why this rubs people the wrong way, especially in science fiction, the point it is to create a situation with a hard ethical dilemma, so a weak premise doesn't really bother me that much, because working out the dilemma is the story, not the details leading up to the situation.
https://slate.com/culture/2021/04/stowaway-netflix-cold-equations.html
The story is based on a classic sci-fi story called The Cold Equations by Tom Godwin. The original story seems to be a bit more straightforward presentation of the Trolley Problem, because the ship is carrying medicine to cure a disease ravaging a distant colony (do you save the stowaway at the expense of not being able to deliver the medicine?).
Apparently the original story suffers some of the same criticism that people here have of the movie:
quote:
Although “The Cold Equations” became one of the most anthologized stories in a genre notable for the importance of its anthologies, in recent decades it is far more likely to be criticized than praised. Complaints about the story typically hinge on its contrived premise. Even within the story’s own value system, a mission designed without the redundancy to cope with the unexpected is simply bad engineering, rather than a demonstration of the universe’s indifference.
While I understand why this rubs people the wrong way, especially in science fiction, the point it is to create a situation with a hard ethical dilemma, so a weak premise doesn't really bother me that much, because working out the dilemma is the story, not the details leading up to the situation.
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But I think the friend who first told me about “The Cold Equations” put it best when he described the story as an elaborate excuse to toss a girl out the airlock and then feel sorry for yourself afterward. As is sometimes the case with genre fiction, it is a fantasy about being forced to do what you secretly want to do so that you can disclaim your own desires even as you indulge in them. It’s both sadistic, as it lingers over Marilyn’s despair, and masochistic, as it wallows in Barton’s helpless stoicism.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:23 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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so a weak premise doesn't really bother me that much
Right, but when you don't explain an obvious and critically important question (how did the guy get inside a panel that was screwed in from the outside?) it is kind of a major plot hole/omission.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 9:27 pm to lsutigersFTW
Could they not have turned around and head back to earth once they realized the mission was going to be a failure? Also, I’m pretty sure a mission like that would have critical spares on hand.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:42 am to lsutigersFTW
We finally got around to this one last night. I felt they wasted a great opportunity with exploring the morals of it. It was very predictable ending.
Good movie overall. Could have been better
Good movie overall. Could have been better
Posted on 5/2/21 at 2:32 pm to lsutigersFTW
Really gave the doctor chick much too much emphasis. You knew what was going to happen well before it did.
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