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re: Steven Spielberg does not want Netflix films to be nominated for Academy Awards

Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:31 pm to
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I don’t have to watch an incomplete film cut up with commercials when streaming, for one


A t.v. station doesn't have to run commercials and on rare occasions they don't. HBO, Showtime, etc. don't have commercials.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:34 pm to
And we didn’t want to see Indiana Jones get arse-raped on screen, but you still made Crystal Skull.

This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 7:36 pm
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:47 pm to
I didn't know Netfix movies were eligible. Are HBO original movies included too?
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:56 pm to
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didn't know Netfix movies were eligible.


They just got a Best Director award and were favorites to win best picture before the awards this year

Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:58 pm to
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didn't know Netfix movies were eligible. Are HBO original movies included too?


If they meet the qualifications they are. I think it has to have a theatrical release in LA for 7 days minumum or something like that. That’s how ESPN won best documentary for the Oj story last year
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:02 pm to
Why does it matter if a movie is released and first watched by a room of people or Za single person? Sounds like ole Spielberg just wants less competition.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:16 pm to
The only point he might have, and it's a stretch, is that Netflix films do not have the universal accessibility of motion pictures and the theater system. If you don't have Netflix, be it lack of a credit card or what have you, you're shite out of luck.

In that same vein, Netflix original movies could be over-hyped by the public due to their marketing advantages with in-home, click-here access, coupled with limited offerings (and 24hour access with near-infinite "start times") resulting in more views and hype.

Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:20 pm to
There also seems to be less pressure when it comes to getting financing because Netflix isn’t relying on box office returns.That’s seems pretty obvious with Netflix greenlighting anything and everything

I don’t comepletely agree with Spielberg, but I can definitely understand where’s he’s coming from.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 8:21 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:23 pm to
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There also seems to be less pressure when it comes to getting financing because Netflix isn’t relying on box office returns.That’s seems pretty obvious with Netflix greenlighting anything and everything I don’t comepletely agree with Spielberg, but I can definitely understand where’s he’s coming from.


If Netflix is such an advantage, I guarantee you they would do work with him
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:27 pm to
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The only point he might have, and it's a stretch, is that Netflix films do not have the universal accessibility of motion pictures and the theater system. If you don't have Netflix, be it lack of a credit card or what have you, you're shite out of luck.



The barriers of entry are near identical. It’s 10-15 bucks for a month of Netflix (actually free for 30 days) and a movie ticket costs 10-15 bucks

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that same vein, Netflix original movies could be over-hyped by the public due to their marketing advantages with in-home, click-here access, coupled with limited offerings (and 24hour access with near-infinite "start times") resulting in more views and hype.


What? Movies hammer the general public with commercials and billboards and shite like that. Netflix hardly does any TV ads. Usually if they market a new show to you, you already have the service

Also hype and views has nothing to do with awards season.
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:28 pm to
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If Netflix is such an advantage, I guarantee you they would do work with him


With Spielberg? Absolutely. They just handed Scorsese $110M to make the Irishmen
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:30 pm to
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The barriers of entry are near identical. It’s 10-15 bucks for a month of Netflix (actually free for 30 days) and a movie ticket costs 10-15 bucks


How is it identical when one gets you in to see 1 movie and the other allows access to hundreds of options to be seen as many times as you want?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:32 pm to
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What? Movies hammer the general public with commercials and billboards and shite like that. Netflix hardly does any TV ads. Usually if they market a new show to you, you already have the service


Exactly. If you're watching Netflix, you're getting hit with constant suggestions to check out their originals while, at the same time, missing every motion picture commercial because you're online streaming.

Think of how rarely people watch commercials these days. With DVR and OnDemand, commercials aren't consumed nearly as much as they were 15 years ago. Like, it's not even close.
Posted by stateofplay
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:32 pm to
Streaming should be Emmy's, it's television
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:39 pm to
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Exactly. If you're watching Netflix, you're getting hit with constant suggestions to check out their originals while, at the same time, missing every motion picture commercial because you're online streaming.

Think of how rarely people watch commercials these days. With DVR and OnDemand, commercials aren't consumed nearly as much as they were 15 years ago. Like, it's not even close


Tell me again why marketing strategies has anything to do with an Oscar nomination
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115610 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:40 pm to
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How is it identical when one gets you in to see 1 movie and the other allows access to hundreds of options to be seen as many times as you want?



Roma

Vs

Greenbook


15 bucks allows me to see either one of those movies. Barrier of entry is the same.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

Roma

Vs

Greenbook


15 bucks allows me to see either one of those movies. Barrier of entry is the same.



15 bucks allows 1 person the ability to see green book 1 time

15 bucks allows you and whoever else is in your household or has access to you account the ability to watch Roma as many times as you want. It also allows you to watch the hundreds of other options

The 15 bucks you spend for Netflix gives you a hell of a lot more than the 15 bucks for 1 ticket to a theater

ETA: 15 bucks for a one time viewing at home for Roma would be a more similar comparison
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 8:56 pm
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:48 pm to
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I’m not on spielbergs side here as far as not allowing Netflix to get nominations, but that statement isn’t even close to being true. The averages persons home is nowhere close to a theater experience, and it never will be unless you can afford to spend 5k or more on a home theater
Ok, then go to the theatre.

I spent maybe $2k for a theatre experience in my home, and with the excpeption of hard-core action movies I'd prefer my set-up versus a theatre. Its just as sharp. I'm front and center, always. I can pause on command as I drink too many beers. I can rewind if I missed a scene's relevance. I can eat caprese while I watch. Etc...

Theatres will always exist for certian films, IMO.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115610 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:52 pm to
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15 bucks allows 1 person the ability to see green book 1 time

15 bucks allows you and whoever else is in your household or has access to you account the ability to watch Roma as many times as you want. It also allows you to watch the hundreds of other options

The 15 bucks you spend for Netflix gives you a hell of a lot more than the 15 bucks for 1 ticket to a theater


The products are the same. The barriers to see the film are the same. No one is disadvantage. Just because one is a much better deal is completely irrelevant to the ability for anyone to go see that film.


The awards are based on the quality of the films man. What the frick are we arguing about. This has nothing to do with anything
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:55 pm to
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The awards are based on the quality of the films man. What the frick are we arguing about. This has nothing to do with anything


that I agree with
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