re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi Gets High Approval Rating In Fan Poll

yes but days after the accusations were made. someone is spamming RT...and then they found one guy on the internet who claims he did. well he must have because the movie was TOTALLY AWESOME



my favorite articles though aren't even the bots, trolls, Nazi defenses but the "this movie is just too smart for people" defense...L-O-L

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Um this group is claiming they spammed the RT audience score

Alt-Right makes claim for RT Score

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Who the frick is the Alt-Right? That's some nonsense boogie man you morons made uo?

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that's nitpicking...the major problems are structural. people keep ignoring that criticism or downplaying it like those aren't the things that make or break a movie

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That's the thing. Someone lists all of the shite that's wrong with the movie and explains why they don't like it...

"So Luke's death is what this is really all about?"



Yeah, that and all the other shite you conveniently overlooked.

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That's the thing. Someone lists all of the shite that's wrong with the movie and explains why they don't like it...

"So Luke's death is what this is really all about?"



Yeah, that and all the

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I said this, and got that same response:

My biggest problem with her character in these movies is Rey didn't earn anything she has. The classic come from nothing hero archetype usually goes through a period of great practice or struggle or defeat or learning.

She hasn't bled for her beliefs. She hasn't spent time training. She hasn't dedicated herself to her mastery. She was just given magical super powers with no limit and no match.

She's never lost a fight or even had a conflicting decision. She's never faced a consequence or overcome a great trial we weren't sure about.

We're just supposed to take it at face value that this random slave girl with no connection to anything else ever in the Star Wars ethos who has no training and no practice is the most powerful force user ever? It's just annoying and shitty story telling.

That's the problem. The characters and plot lines in this movie are indefensible from a basic writing prospective. Forget star wars. Look at the way you craft a good story since the dawn of time. From the Iliad and the Odyssey to the Canterbury Tales to Shakespeare to the Golden age of film. You can't just throw basic story and character principles out the window and expect the fricking thing to work.

If you remove your anger at the star wars nerd in you and just look at the Skelton of the characters and the plot this movie is broken on every level.

It lacks any real conflict. There's no character development. The plot isn't advanced. Nothing meaningful ever happens in the entire movie because he failed at the basic level of set up, conflict, climax, resolution. At the beginning and end of TLJ every character and both the Resistance and the First Order are in the same place as when they began. It's a complete failure on the basic tenets of story telling.

Even the only two significant events in the movie, Snoke's "death" and Luke's "death" hold no weight because Snoke was a throw away character no one cares about who was killed without climax and Luke's characters was ridiculously unlikable and then killed and then revealed to have not really be killed and then just faded into the sunset.

If the Force Awakens is viewed as homage and soft reboot to the franchise and a retelling of a classic tale from a new angle, then TLJ should be viewed as a shitty rip off parody of the Franchise. That's really what it is. A parody. It parodies and makes fun and tears down everything that came before it. And it does so really sloppily and lazily.

And if you read Rian Johnson's interviews about the movie that's exactly what it was. He point blank said he didn't care about star wars or the established universe or fan base and he in no way tried to make a Star Wars film fans would like. That's a quote from him.

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No you fricking retard.

I said nothing about that being why people think the movie as a whole sucked. I specifically said in my post “luke’s Story”

It keeps getting brought up, and when someone acts like it’s stupid and he just “inexplicably died” and disregards that luke committed self sacrifice to save Leia and the rest of the resistance, I’m going to bring it up. He mentions early when he sees rey talking to ren that it would kill someone to do that.

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Is that why you ignore the numerous problems with the movie? Because you liked Luke's death?

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My biggest problem with her character in these movies is Rey didn't earn anything she has. The classic come from nothing hero archetype usually goes through a period of great practice or struggle or defeat or learning.

She hasn't bled for her beliefs. She hasn't spent time training. She hasn't dedicated herself to her mastery. She was just given magical super powers with no limit and no match.

She's never lost a fight or even had a conflicting decision. She's never faced a consequence or overcome a great trial we weren't sure about.

We're just supposed to take it at face value that this random slave girl with no connection to anything else ever in the Star Wars ethos who has no training and no practice is the most powerful force user ever? It's just annoying and shitty story telling.

That's the problem. The characters and plot lines in this movie are indefensible from a basic writing prospective. Forget star wars. Look at the way you craft a good story since the dawn of time. From the Iliad and the Odyssey to the Canterbury Tales to Shakespeare to the Golden age of film. You can't just throw basic story and character principles out the window and expect the fricking thing to work.

If you remove your anger at the star wars nerd in you and just look at the Skelton of the characters and the plot this movie is broken on every level.

It lacks any real conflict. There's no character development. The plot isn't advanced. Nothing meaningful ever happens in the entire movie because he failed at the basic level of set up, conflict, climax, resolution. At the beginning and end of TLJ every character and both the Resistance and the First Order are in the same place as when they began. It's a complete failure on the basic tenets of story telling.

Even the only two significant events in the movie, Snoke's "death" and Luke's "death" hold no weight because Snoke was a throw away character no one cares about who was killed without climax and Luke's characters was ridiculously unlikable and then killed and then revealed to have not really be killed and then just faded into the sunset.

If the Force Awakens is viewed as homage and soft reboot to the franchise and a retelling of a classic tale from a new angle, then TLJ should be viewed as a shitty rip off parody of the Franchise. That's really what it is. A parody. It parodies and makes fun and tears down everything that came before it. And it does so really sloppily and lazily.

And if you read Rian Johnson's interviews about the movie that's exactly what it was. He point blank said he didn't care about star wars or the established universe or fan base and he in no way tried to make a Star Wars film fans would like. That's a quote from him.

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You are too simple little Padawan

Rey's whole entire life was a struggle and battle

An orphan on a planet full of thieves, she endured more before puberty then whiney little bitch luke did in freaking training

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I simply don't thin their were numerous problems to the story....

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Reading that sentence was more entertaining than that movie.

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We're just supposed to take it at face value that this random slave girl with no connection to anything else ever in the Star Wars ethos who has no training and no practice is the most powerful force user ever? It's just annoying and shitty story telling.

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But that’s the thing youre supposed to take away from this movie. Anyone can use the force now.

Now I hate to break this to the people that aren’t aware, but Star Wars isn’t and never was “the skywalker saga.”

The PT was anakin’s fall. The OT was anakin’s redemption. The OT was never meant to be about Luke. It was about anakin. And this is from George lucas’s mouth.

So naturally, we aren’t making a trilogy about anakin’s afterlife because he’s dead. So they bring in someone else to tell a story about.

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The critics overwhelming side with me at 92%, and the audience does slightly at 54%

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That's fine. You're snooty. I'm a man of the people.

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Go check my post history.

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Nah.