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re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:32 pm to ell_13
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:32 pm to ell_13
i'm just giving a general overview. if there is an active rebellion, there will be action scenes establishing this
just like how i said the end of the 2nd act would basically be episode 4 in reverse. a telling victory for the new rebels
attempting to unite the galaxy would allow for a lot of legitimate conflict while also allowing much more robust exploration of the galaxy itself. the one thing i hope for with this franchise reboot is that we get a lot more exploration of the galaxy and stories within it. this doesn't have to be in the main triology
the best we got with this with the OT were the 2 ewoks movies
just like how i said the end of the 2nd act would basically be episode 4 in reverse. a telling victory for the new rebels
attempting to unite the galaxy would allow for a lot of legitimate conflict while also allowing much more robust exploration of the galaxy itself. the one thing i hope for with this franchise reboot is that we get a lot more exploration of the galaxy and stories within it. this doesn't have to be in the main triology
the best we got with this with the OT were the 2 ewoks movies
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:33 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:No one is arguing that this doesn't happen.
My lai massacre was in the 60s. An entire company of American infantry killed hundreds of women and children because their captain ordered them too. And these were young men who had grown up in regular households with parents who lived them and presumably taught them some morals. But they got caught up in the moment and followed their orders.
In Star Wars context, there wouldn't be millions of empire soldiers and workers that just punch their timecards and massacre billions indiscriminately unless that was true.
But if you accept that, you also have to know there will be dissidents as well.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:33 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
If there's one character that people should be complaining about, it's Captain Phasma. I'm surprised SFP hasn't hit on that one yet being a GOT fan.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:34 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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That's what I've been saying. Frankly, they were just lazy with Finns character. Really disappointing
i can live with him in one movie, but it's scary to think of how they're going to rely on him moving forward. his use in this movie was that he was the rain man of imperial, er, new order, sanitation workers.
i REALLY hoped he had died
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the whole problem with the character. he starts from a bad base. the foundation is weak
I'm not sure I understand why the foundation is weak. We have essentially a kid who grew up being trained to follow commands from the First Order and in his first combat mission doesn't have the nerve/moral numbness to do it. So he flees with plans to run and hide.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:34 pm to drizztiger
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But if you accept that, you also have to know there will be dissidents as well.
Of course there would. And I even rewrote Finns character to reflect that in a much more interesting way.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:35 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:I didn't find it worthwhile to argue a hypothetical character. What you're looking for is Canderous type from KOTOR.
And I also think that the scenario I laid out in that post that you ignored would have made a much better movie.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:35 pm to ell_13
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Captain Phasma.
that was the chrome storm trooper?
i just took that as a toy that hopefully won't show up again
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:35 pm to Antonio Moss
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I'm not sure I understand why the foundation is weak. We have essentially a kid who grew up being trained to follow commands from the First Order and in his first combat mission doesn't have the nerve/moral numbness to do it. So he flees with plans to run and hide.
And I find that boring and it leaves nothing to build on.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:36 pm to drizztiger
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What you're looking for is Canderous type from KOTOR.
I don't WTF that means
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:37 pm to Antonio Moss
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We have essentially a kid who grew up being trained to follow commands from the First Order and in his first combat mission doesn't have the nerve/moral numbness to do it. So he flees with plans to run and hide.
and if he had left after the tavern scene, i wouldn't care as much
but he was used as a plot device in the most annoying way after. he was a lowly, inexperienced guy who couldn't handle fighting? ok. i'll even let his witty banter slide. but being the plans in R2D2 from episode 4? too much.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:38 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
KOTOR = knights of the old republic, a book series that is no longer canon but is much beloved
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:38 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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And leaves nothing to build on
I'm not sure how you can argue that. Finn leaves unlimited creative ability in that character. In your hypothetical, that proven First Order officer is going to be handcuffed by years of character development.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:38 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I miss the days when we could enjoy movies without picking everything apart.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
It was Brienne... Without a single decent fight scene. She was totally wasted.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:40 pm to OMLandshark
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Boyega's character just didnt fit Star Wars. It would be great for Independence Day but just didnt fit right for Star Wars.
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Let me guess the reasons you think this:
1) He's black
2) He may bang a white girl
And that's pretty much it.
Stop being a douche. And she has already put him in the "friend" zone by her last comments. Geez. Has nothing to do with race.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:41 pm to ell_13
yeah i could recognize the voice but couldn't place it. my roommate told me who it was after. did she just do the voice work or the whole shebang?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:41 pm to Antonio Moss
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In your hypothetical, that proven First Order officer is going to be handcuffed by years of character developmen
Han Solo was handcuffed by years of character development before the Original and he's hands down the most beloved character of the OT
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but he was used as a plot device in the most annoying way after. he was a lowly, inexperienced guy who couldn't handle fighting? ok. i'll even let his witty banter slide. but being the plans in R2D2 from episode 4? too much.
I will say that the my biggest problem with the film was the reliance on another Death Star like weapon. It's not bad; just unnecessary. They could have just as easily had the First Order find Luke's location and have the final big battle in space outside that planet.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
She was in the suit. Wish it was her fighting Fin outside of Maz' place.
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