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re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***

Posted on 12/15/17 at 7:50 am to
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 7:50 am to
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People will hate it and people will love it & I can completely understand both sides.


Yeah. I really liked the Luke/Rey/Ren parts. Snoke dying was a huge surprise to me.

The Resistance story was pretty bad and every time they cut to Poe or Finn and Rose I was just waiting for them to get back to Rey. That’s the best story they could come up with for that group?
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 7:52 am to
Meh

-Too much comedy
-Rose makes Finn bearable
-No Snoke or KoR backstories
-Superman Leia
-Chewbacca was nothing more than useless comic relief
-As soon as Rose said "the worst place in the galaxy" I knew it would be rich people living it up.
-What was the point of Phasma? Such wasted potential, she coulda been so much more badass.

Some positives

-Red gaurds
-Yoda
-The snow planet with the red dirt was absolutely stunning
-I'm ok with the Luke storyline
-Kylo treating Hux like his bitch
-Antonio Banderas' character
-BB8

Also.... Of course there was culcha in the theater not far from me trying to be funny by yelling one liners for the whole theater to hear and talking loudly.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 7:55 am
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10575 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:09 am to
I thought that movie was kind of stupid.

I hated the Kylo Ren - Rey FaceTime scenes. What the hell was that? Leia as superman was ridiculous. Alot of awful pointless characters, Rose and the lady that stays back on the cruiser in particular (name is escaping me right now). The thing that probably pissed me off the most was the creation of this incredibly powerful Snoke, then killing him off with no backstory. Like who the frick was that guy?
Posted by CrazyJoeDivola
Member since Jan 2013
628 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:16 am to
My straightforward review.

The Force Awakens was a wasted movie now. Snoke went out like a little bitch, Phasma was a wasted character, Rey's lineage is a non factor - its like Disney took everything interesting to the fans about TFA (very little) and shat on it.

Luke deserved better. He was highlight of movie for me but not the way he went out.

The least "Star Wars" of all SW movies so far. What have you done George? It was a non SW movie that had moments of SW every now and then.

Kylo Ren is an emo punk, watching the original trilogy Vader was a terrifying bad arse -Ren is a punk.

I thought the Empire was stupid, but the first order is run by a bunch of idiots ( This is the last resistance ship, but we cant catch up to them, and we can't send our tie fighters after them because we can't support them). Only matched by the shear dumb foolery of the resistance (Lets go to this abandoned base and leave Leia standing in front of the open doors until tie fighters come blazing in).

Oh yeah, lets recreate the hoth scene while we are at it.

I don't care about Poe, and wtf when it comes to Finn. And the whole gambling planet sucked.

R2, 3P0, and Chewbacca - its criminal what they've done to them.

What I liked:
Luke, Yoda, the throne room scene until Snoke is offed, and the red guards.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:18 am to
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Luke deserved better. He was highlight of movie for me but not the way he went out.


I don’t understand the point of having him be a hologram or whatever with Kylo but then he just dies anyway.
Posted by CrazyJoeDivola
Member since Jan 2013
628 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:20 am to
Right? I was thinking, Luke had time for a little Just For Men on his way here.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60937 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:27 am to
Below is my review of TFA

quote:

Movie sucks as is — has a chance for greatness depending on where the story goes with TLJ...


Given the events of TLJ - TFA awakens is pointless drivel.

An orphan from dead drunks suddenly becomes a superhero because reasons to find Luke so she can abandon Luke and confront Ben/Snoke so that she can watch Ben (who’s act of patricide clearly had no real impact because he went light the dark again because reasons) kill this mysterious and utterly pointless Snoke so that they can become superfriends but not really and then escape for her big climactic moment where she lifts rocks to save her friends who have been slaughtered and screwed over by their own scooby doo plan that was pointless to the plot and only occurred because the purple haired lady refused to tell Poe the real plan because reasons.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 8:45 am
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
8306 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:31 am to


The Kylo shirtless scene was cringeworthy. I don't believe for one second that Ren would make a comment here. Why, with all that's going on, would she care that he doesn't have a shirt on?

And I don't give one flying flip about the people who cry SJW anytime there are multiple non-white males in a movie...I simply don't care what my characters look like as long as they are well developed.

That said, I did notice at one point that everyone on the bridge with Vice Admiral Holdo was a woman. Like every single person sitting at a computer. I thought that was a bit odd.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 8:38 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38443 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:34 am to
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-Too much comedy
-Rose makes Finn bearable
-No Snoke or KoR backstories
-Superman Leia
-Chewbacca was nothing more than useless comic relief
-As soon as Rose said "the worst place in the galaxy" I knew it would be rich people living it up.
-What was the point of Phasma? Such wasted potential, she coulda been so much more badass.


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Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:35 am to
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The most terrible star wars movie ever. Straight garbage. I won't see the next one in the theater


Some of y’all really need to go back and watch AotC.
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
2887 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:36 am to
quote:

The Force Awakens was a wasted movie now. Snoke went out like a little bitch, Phasma was a wasted character, Rey's lineage is a non factor - its like Disney took everything interesting to the fans about TFA (very little) and shat on it.


Yep. Don't forget to add in the Knights of Ren.

quote:

Kylo Ren is an emo punk, watching the original trilogy Vader was a terrifying bad arse -Ren is a punk.


And now he's the leader of the First Order? Hell the resistance doesn't need to beat them. He's so unbalanced, immature, and pouty he'll be his own downfall. He's not cunning, clever, or intelligent to be an actual threat on a large scale like Snoke and Palpatine were.

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I don't care about Poe, and wtf when it comes to Finn. And the whole gambling planet sucked.


Both of these storylines were laughable and pointless. If someone had just told Poe about the plan he wouldn't even have a role in the movie. The whole Finn and Rose story could have been cut from the movie and the overall plot would have been just the same.

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R2, 3P0, and Chewbacca - its criminal what they've done to them.


Same could be said for Phasma, Snoke, and wasting Del Toro on a stupid stuttering role. Every theory I had read about who he was going to be was more interesting then what they did with him.

Johnson developing a new trilogy was exciting to me a couple days ago, now I'm praying they keep him as far away as possible.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:37 am to
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writing was cringeworthy


Let's not act like the OT had stellar dialogue. Bad acting and dialogue is a SW staple.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:39 am to
I like that Rey isn’t someone important

The choices with the story are not something I have a problem with at all

Too many people in the cast, too many story threads, action scenes are just like the prequels in terms of shoving shite wherever you can. The humor is tone crushing like I’ve never seen. Shitty dialogue, shitty delivery

And lol at the OJ chase in space. Everyone just comes and goes

And yoda...Jesus, terrible. The whole theater laughed the second they saw him. How does a 37 year old puppet look 20x better?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:42 am to
quote:

An orphan from dead drunks suddenly becomes a superhero because reasons


Anakin was a fatherless slave boy who was the chosen one because reasons. Also who knows if Ben was telling the truth.

quote:

Ben (who’s act of patricide clearly had no real impact because he went light the dark again because reasons)


He never went light. He killed snoke and then told Rey to come with him. Not as Jedi or sith. She said no, and in his anger, turned back to the dark.

quote:

purple haired lady refused to tell Poe the real plan because reasons.


Because Leia demoted him for insubordination. The purple hair said she didn't like reckless overagressive pilots and that he was the last thing they needed. She told him to sit tight.




I wasn't the biggest fan, but some of your gripes are retarded. The "because reasons" we're clearly there outside of the junk yard origin. But again, Anakin had very similar origins.

I do agree Snoke being killed rendered him pointless unless they explore him in ep 9.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60937 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:44 am to
quote:

The Kylo shirtless scene was cringeworthy. I don't believe for one second that Ren would make a comment here. Why, with all that's going on, would she care that he doesn't have a shirt on?


Because she wants him to pork her
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 8:44 am
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
6055 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:46 am to
YOU. DO. NOT. HAVE. LUKE. MOTHER. EFFING. SKYWALKER. GO. OUT. LIKE. THAT.

I don't mind the rest of the movie, except Rey being a nobody. That fact makes TFA feel like a worse movie. Seeing Luke and Yoda together again was fantastic, absolutely loved that scene. But....

Luke is one of the most iconic heroes in cinema history. The way they handled his story with considering killing Ben Solo instead of continuing his attempts to bring him back to the light, then running away to an island and having his last stand be through a force projection is absolutely unforgivable.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 8:50 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:47 am to
quote:

First 30 minutes or so of the film was absolutely awful. Worst segment in the series’ history.


Ummm, remember this crap?



quote:

I kind of wanted Luke to be dead from Kylo the whole time and it was his ghost they were seeing. Thought that would have been a cool twist.


I have a bit of an issue with the Luke showing up as a Force Ghost that wasn’t physically there: do Jedi Mind Tricks now work on droids? This may seem minor, but why could 3PO see him?
Posted by Run Ultra
Member since May 2017
2301 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:48 am to
Can I get a summary from this thread about what y’all didn’t like about the movie??
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:51 am to
The problem with killing snoke is we don’t know enough about him to care about him or hate him

There’s no emotional impact. We never see the relationship between he and ren nor do we know who snoke is really so why should we care? Are those red guys the knights of ren? Who are they and what’s their story? Watching them carve those guys up was no doubt cool AF but there’s just nothing for me to care about.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:51 am to
quote:

I have a bit of an issue with the Luke showing up as a Force Ghost that wasn’t physically there: do Jedi Mind Tricks now work on droids? This may seem minor, but why could 3PO see him?


He wasn't a ghost. He was still alive at the time. He projected his image.

I thought they were setting up Luke to be a badass in ep 9, but they let him just fall back and die. It was fricking garbage what they did to him.
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