re: Star Trek First Impressions (SPOILERS IN THREAD)

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they were more concerned with cool visuals than actual plot.

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Bingo. Just like 90% of the movies that come out nowadays.

Granted this movie isn't Ultravomit, but it's still bad.

That was a serious flaw in the plot. I mean even Shuttle Craft have phasers. And even if they don't they could just ram the damn thing.

This ties into my visual idea. They thought the drill looked cool and it tied into more than one scene. We are just supposed to ignore the fact that it could easily be destroyed.

I imagine when someone compiles all of the logistical problems with the movie it will run a few hundred pages.

Having said that, I still enjoyed it and plan to watch it again. I liked the human interaction and dialog.

I will expect more out of the next film.

I found that green chick funny looking. I don't think shuttle crafts of that time have phasers.

Also, the thing about the romulans and why Nero didn't just warn them. They would have been killed. The Tal'shiar would have taken the technology for their own and introduce it to the galaxy in small bits.

The Tal'shair is like the CIA and FBI of the Romulans, but only worse, they violate their people rights on a daily bases. It wasn't until ST:DS9 that they got cripple severely , making their people free to choose their destiny. Also, romluans are like a the Roman empire, not all of them are bad ,just the ones in charge, they had an underground movement that was trying to unite them with their vulcan heritage.


ALso yes, a low class mining freighter is alot more powerful compare to a ship of the line 129 years old. The warp they are going at now had to be re-written because it get's so much faster in the future. Phasers, Torpedos, shield all get major upgrades. The new shields of the future are no longer bubble like, it hugs to the hull now. That;s why Nero ships didn't pop any bubbles.

Also the reason why they waited 25 years to do something is because they needed spock ships and weapons. Without that, the combine federation fleet COULD have stop him, at great loses sure, but could have stop him.

It is after all still a mining ship, but against wings like the Federation sent in earlier, they are nothing.

The Federation probably have about 3,600 war class ships, not counting freighters ships and sciene ships at any given time. In the dominon war they had 12 fleets or more doing battle against the Dominon. Each fleet held an average of 300+ war class ships.

If you didn't notice when the Enterprise jumped out into normal space at vulcan there were ships debreis all over the place. The same thing could have happen to the Vulcan Fleet and the EArth fleet. One would fully expect Nero to cripple the respective fleets before commence drilling.

That was the federation fleet. Each planet would still have some of their own ships. Although I agree that does explain a bit about missing fleets. But I think it was Pike that said it when he told Kirk to rendezvous with the rest of the fleet if things went bad.

There is no good explanation for the lack of ground to orbit defenses or even just shuttles going up to the drill and dropping off soldiers. I mean Kirk and Sulu proved it wasn't to hard to mess the drill up.

If time travel is possible, we must not be that important, as no one has yet come back to destroy us. Or, maybe the multiverse makes it exceedingly unlikely that we would observe it if it were possible. It gives me a headache.

How many scenes did the movie have with Kirk hanging off a cliff or ledge?

1. Hanging off the cliff when he is a young kid after taking the car.
2. Hanging off the drill
3. Hanging off walkway with no handrails. (Guess they don't have OSHA on mining ships in the future)

any others


I love cliches.

Oh so the 100s if not 1000s of Romulans on the ship are all in a state of insanity?

Amazing to see they can function running a star ship for 25 years in a state of insanity.

Also if they were all in a state of insane rage, I doubt they would have calmly sat by the anomaly waiting for spock for 25 years.

By the way Spock went in first, so they really have no way of knowing if he didn't come out before them and take of for another system. They also have no idea if he is even ever going to make it out of the anomaly. Maybe his ship was destroyed inside.

So once again without even knowing if he was ever going to come out, the crew just allowed insane Nero to sit there and wait, while the whole time, Romulus could be working on a fix to save the planet.

Nope. Really lame plot execution.

When Kirk went sky diving to do the charges, please tell me I wasn't the only one thinking about this poster.