re: Star Trek First Impressions (SPOILERS IN THREAD)

OK i am going to give my thoughts

i saw the movie today and i read this entire thread

first, the movie was enjoyable. when i heard they were making another star trek movie, i thought it was goin to be shite-tastic as usual. it wasn't. it was enjoyable and by far the best star trek movie

solid effects. great cast. enjoyable action scenes (at least when not involving hand-to-hand combat). the use of an actual person in a suit for some aliens (namely scotty's compadre). it was a fun movie

but it wasn't a good movie. the ratings on RT make me seriously question the ratings system

1. it was stupid. stupid plot. stupid writing. there's just no way around this. typical action movie plot

2. the king of stupidity was nero. seriously he was just an unintelligent retard by the end of the movie. i don't mean this in a nitpicking way, i mean this in a "his character had low intelligence" way.

3. there were some major plotholes, as expected. namely the "earth doesn't have 1 machine gun to stop this huge arse drill?" angle. also there are the usual problems that come up with time travel. drilling ships having that much technology? the red matter having a wide range of power.

4. hanging off cliffs/walkways was way overdone

5. ok i'm goin to bring up the biggest plot hole and combine 2 and 3. nero's motive/plan literally makes no sense. how did he know spock was going to follow him? he obviously thought romulus was blown up (based on the interview with pike) when he was in the past, so he couldn't go save romulus. so instead he just sits there, waiting on spock to show up...for 25 years. then spock does show up, he sends im down to ice planet, and melts vulcan. spock knew what was up with the time travel...he didn't tell nero? nero transports him all the way to vulcan, but spock can't convince him that romulus still exists in that time period? and then after nero realizes he's in teh past (when/how this happened, i don't know), he still chose to blow up the federation instead of going to save romulus?

6. while the comedy wasn't your average gay shite, the writing was poor

as a popcorn movie: 8/10
as a movie movie: 5/10

it's hard for me to say that this is any better than transformers, for example. it is certainly no dark knight

the split in time was good for restarting the franchise. hopefully the trekkies stfu about the differences

however any true trekkie who liked that movie is being a hypocrite, imho

i'm not a trekkie, and i enjoyed it. but it was not a "star trek" story

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Actually it was a Star Trek story. I don't get when people say that.

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because for years and years the trekkies have acted like some elitists b/c of what their beloved mythology stood for

star wars (the originals) were better, but not nearly as deep as what star trek was. it was cheesy, but progressive and had really deep, detailed stories with many real, flawed characters who did develop over time

it's more than the action sequences. it's the lack of anything else

but this movie had NOTHING underneathe

it was pure surface popcorn

Saw it yesterday. 7/10. Enjoyed the opening scene. A lot of stupid plot lines. Scotty was decent comic relief. Bones sucked. Nimoy needs to stay out the next movies.

The reason they don't just use a trasnporter to sneak a bomb on a enemy ship is because they are very code and moral driven. So that doesn't bother me

As for the movie, I really liked it but could have done with 40-50% less future Spock. Plus the plot was a little light. But overall everyone did great acting wise. Looking forward to a sequel. Maybe with the young Khan bad guy from Star Trek 1? Or maybe it was 2?

Dunno. I'm not a fan of Cho but it's not like he had a large role. If that's the worst thing people can bitch about then I'd say the films pretty successful.

because you can only do 6 at a time? I dunno.

Goddamnit I don't know!