re: SOUND OF FREEDOM

Nobody is citing rolling stone for anything here. Good deflection though.

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Nobody is citing rolling stone for anything here. Good deflection though.

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Also this board had a conniption fit over Cuties and I don't think many, if any, people were big fans.

Caviezel is saying insane shite and people are like “hey, that kind of stuff is similar to, or the exact same as, some insane shite that qanon preaches.” And then those people are pedophiles because they question Caviezel.

It’s bizarre.

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Do you think child sex trafficking is bad?” Yes of course. “So you agree with everything in this movie.” Well idk, probably not. “Ok you’re a pedo

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Where I become confused is what part of the movie we aren’t agreeing about. People are throwing a fit over this movie for one of two reasons.: 1. They’re a pedo/pedo sympathizer. 2. They don’t like the people involved acting in /making the movie

No matter what category you fall under the subject matter remains. I’m not really sure what there is to argue about yet here we are.

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My parents went to see this and said each child was mentioned as a “child of god” and said it was unnecessarily pushing the religious angles. They said it sucked and would hard call it a movie

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I’ve got good news and bad news for you.

The good news, you were not used as a child sex slave.

The bad news, those aren’t your real parents. You were abducted as a child and sold to this couple who have since pretended to be your parents.

But again, at least they didn’t use you as a sex slave.

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Young women approached by sketchy "modeling agencies" and shipped off to another city for a "job", etc.

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Tell me you didn’t watch the movie without telling me you didn’t watch the movie.

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liberals mostly ignoring the movie.

You've almost connected the dots here.

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I keep reading “632627” as “666”.

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(1) this is allegedly a movie about true events

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Yes. From an unreliable narrator, and with admitted embellishments, but I imagine the general theme/story is largely true.

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people can offer context in the discussion of these movies to highlight where child abuse actually comes from

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Again, kind of. And this is a type of abuse that we really can't do much about, sadly. It's also in an area that isn't one of the real hot spots for trafficking (I imagine it was chosen because of the action factor and location close to the US, for obvious reasons).

I know his organization has reported they've done stuff all over SE Asia. THAT would give audiences a much more accurate picture of a much larger sample of trafficking.

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Do you not like the movie and wish it wasn’t made,

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I don't have an opinion of the movie and have stated numerous times I hope it makes bank. We need more small movies being mega profitable so they get made/distributed in theaters.

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or just don’t like how the movie will be used? T

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Much more this, and people should be warned about the creative forces behind this movie (hence the associations with Q). If you want to support anti-trafficking efforts, there are better ways to donate your time/money.

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it should be possible to channel emotions one might feel when watching heavy content like what’s in this film and channel it into positive change

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On an individual level this is possible, but you know how silly humans get when they're part of a group.

The Polaris Project is a much more effective and legitimate organization. This is their article I promised earlier:

How Unproven Trafficking Stories Spread Online and Why Stopping Them Matters

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A barrage of conspiracy-related reports from people with no direct knowledge of trafficking situations can overwhelm services meant for victims.

There are only so many Hotline Advocates available at any one time to handle incoming contacts to the Trafficking Hotline. Hundreds or thousands of people sharing the same information means long wait times for victims in crisis or service providers trying to find immediate help for someone in need. These long waits may literally mean the difference between someone finding the help they need to escape or having to hang up because they can’t get through.

Survivors, victims, or even accidental bystanders may lose their privacy or be negatively impacted.

The Wayfair theory has already resulted in online harassment and privacy intrusions of people mistakenly believed to be victims, as well as broad sharing of online sexual abuse material of actual victims who have not been connected in any way to Wayfair. This harm is real for survivors who want to maintain their privacy, victims who are being re-exploited by broader distribution of their abuse materials, or bystanders whose lives can be overwhelmed by the actions of potentially well-meaning online communities.

Conspiracies distract from the more disturbing but simple realities of how sex trafficking actually works, and how we can prevent it.

The truth of the matter is that the “villains” of sex trafficking are less likely to be members of a secretive network involved in a bizarre or convoluted scheme than they are to be some of your neighbors – a local businessman, pastor, doctor, lawyer, military officer, or government official. Sex trafficking simply would not occur if there were no customers – generally men – buying sex.

Similarly, while anyone can of course become a victim of sex trafficking, it is rarely perpetrated by a total stranger who kidnaps children. People – including children – who have other vulnerabilities are far more likely to be victimized, and often the perpetrators are people the victims know and may even love or trust.

We strongly encourage everyone to learn more about what human trafficking really looks like in most situations, and about how you can help prevent trafficking in our own community. The more you know, the more you can help us to protect children before they get trafficked, and help those who are truly vulnerable.

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This Christian report on SRA has a really good section on why the truth matters (I would just copy/paste the text but it pastes without spaces)



Just look at the vitriol and debasing dishonesty flowing early and often from people who demand strict adherence to the narrative about this movie. It's legit cult shite. No questioning the narrative. Obey 100% or you're a pedo.



(And yes I know this attribution is wrong and it's really from a white supremacist, but I'm posting it for irony b/c it's used by the same population re: "They"/(((Them))) often and they clearly don't realize they're doing the exact same silencing behavior. )

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Some on here like this SFP are insinuating that this movie has overstated the problem?

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No. What you are repeating are lies and strawman arguments others used against me to try to shame me into submission.

Now I did say that all levels of government are expanding the term "human trafficking" in our domestic laws so that government has an excuse to exchange its War on Drugs authoritarianism (which is declining due to legalization efforts) for War on Trafficking authoritarianism...especially the civil asset forfeiture side of things. What some would consider normal prostitution is now "human trafficking"

I also said that our domestic trafficking issues won't be solved via LEO/authoritarianism. It's just like the WOD where you can play whack a mole and shut one pimp/group down and another just springs up in its place the next day. You want to try to attack the real issue, it's probably going to require some leftism (my preferred free markets create negative externalities for many. It's the cost of freedom).

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Even scaling back from the extreme (SRA), the concept of "Strange Danger" has been quite pervasive since I was a child (mid-late 80s). Effectively this is debunked as a real threat (the actual, likely threats are family members and close friends of the family. Abuse by these 2 populations outpaces "stranger" abuse by probably a factor of 100000x).

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Ok, I will agree that if a child is sexually abused it is more likely to be by a family memeber/family friend than by being abducted into a child sex slave operation. However, I would imagine that perverted Uncle Larry who is molesting his niece probably is a consumer of online child pornography. A ton of this content is created by groups that are portrayed in this movie.

Either way it is sickening. And even if familiar abuse happens more than child sex slavery, why does that mean they shouldn’t still bring awareness to the issue.

The movie itself takes no political side. Politics really aren’t mentioned at all. Nor does the movie delve into any Q’anon stuff. I think the activities the movie is bringing to light most everyone already knows exists. The movie is just trying to emphasize how it is a larger isssue than many understand it to be and that it is growing.

If anyone comes out of that theater thinking any less than damn that is some Awful stuff and I hope more is done to stop it, then those people have problems.