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re: 'Solo' Box Office Watch
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:16 pm to ell_13
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:16 pm to ell_13
quote:
Deadpool was moved from Feb to May so that it could have a longer, better run.
Because the original Deadpool was a major risk and why they put it in the worst month for films since it has no competition. When they know for a fact it will make hundreds of millions, put it in debatably the highest grossing month since there’s no risk then.
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:17 pm to OMLandshark
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eah, because so many movies bomb in May. Avengers has clearly suffered from this. Before Disney, that’s when all Star Wars movies were released.
There has never been an MCU movie released Memorial Day weekend. Until Solo, that also applied to Star Wars. It's almost like some people know something there...
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:24 pm to Argonaut
quote:Everyone but Disney?
It's almost like some people know something there...
Is that really what you are going with here?
Or are you suggesting that Disney MEANT to have it underperform, since they knew Mem day movies are weak performers?
Which is it?
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:25 pm to Argonaut
quote:What? Link me where I said I'm boycotting Solo.
You included yourself.
quote:I never said you did.
I never said it was good.
quote:That was PotC: At World's End... in 2007. So adjusted for inflation would be... $185 million. Thank you for helping my argument.
That must be why $139 million is the most a Memorial Day weekend release has ever made.
ETA: In fact, you can go down the list of All-Time Memorial Days and adjust them for inflation and half of the top 10 are over 160 mill. The Lost World would be at 180 for example.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:33 pm to ell_13
quote:
What? Link me where I said I'm boycotting Solo.
I didn't say that you did.
quote:
I never said you did.
I didn't say that you said I did.
quote:
So adjusted for inflation
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:35 pm to Roaad
quote:
Is that really what you are going with here?
That's what the numbers are going with here.
May:
2018 - $515,700,000
2017 - $860,300,000
2016 - $925,800,000
2015 - $1,183,000,000
2014 - $1,234,300,000
2013 - $1,461,100,000
May's box office hasn't been this low since 1994 when The Flintstones was the #1 movie of the month. Factor in low Memorial Day numbers in recent years, and the writing is on the wall.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:36 pm to Argonaut
So first you're saying that it had too much competition and now you're saying it doesn't have much competition?
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:36 pm to ell_13
quote:
So first you're saying that it had too much competition and now you're saying it doesn't have much competition?
Nope.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:37 pm to Argonaut
quote:"Supposedly, that includes you"
I didn't say that you did.
quote:JFC.
I didn't say that you said I did.
quote:Yes. It's funny that you ignore the apples to apples comparison which inflation adjustments provide.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:40 pm to Argonaut
quote:You've literally argued that it is going up against too much competition (in May) and are now saying that May doesn't have high-grossing movies.
Nope.
And you think it should have been released in December which has grossed over a billion since 2000... 18 straight years.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:44 pm to ell_13
quote:
"Supposedly, that includes you"
Does it?
quote:
Yes. It's funny that you ignore the apples to apples comparison which inflation adjustments provide.
Do I have to explain inflation now?
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:48 pm to ell_13
quote:
You've literally argued that it is going up against too much competition (in May) and are now saying that May doesn't have high-grossing movies.
The two ideas are independent of each other. You do know that, right?
quote:
And you think it should have been released in December which has grossed over a billion since 2000... 18 straight years.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:48 pm to Argonaut
To tell the truth this wasn't a bad movie. Just too much agenda pushing by Disney. Best acting was Chewbacca.
And they put in a ton of nastalgia without any explanation. Ok the dime are his luck charm.....why? I noticed the had Lando mention the escape pod over the mandables in a voice over, and not on screen. Stupid sassy woman droid. Strong young black girl with moles all over her face!
AND the made Han a part of the imperial army when he makes no notion of this in the OT. And his name? Oohh your alone so you will be Solo... brilliant writing.
And they put in a ton of nastalgia without any explanation. Ok the dime are his luck charm.....why? I noticed the had Lando mention the escape pod over the mandables in a voice over, and not on screen. Stupid sassy woman droid. Strong young black girl with moles all over her face!
AND the made Han a part of the imperial army when he makes no notion of this in the OT. And his name? Oohh your alone so you will be Solo... brilliant writing.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:48 pm to Argonaut
My old roommate works at ILM, even he said this movie sucks and he worked on it. Disney is shifting blame for their crappy movies to the consumer, it’s a bold strategy. Just make a good movie damnit and the fans will show up to watch it regardless of the date or whatever other movies are in the theater.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:52 pm to Argonaut
quote:Of course not. "Boycotting" a movie is ridiculous.
Does it?
quote:I'd certainly be entertained by you trying to.
Do I have to explain inflation now?
You tried to use 139 mill for memorial day as a "bad" weekend for a holiday. But looking at the charts, only Presidents day (Black Panther and Deadpool), and Easter (BvS: DoJ, Furious 7) have had better weekends. That's 4 movies total and only looking at actual grosses. Memorial Day is better than the 4th, Thanksgiving, Labor Day, MLK, Superbowl, etc.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:55 pm to ell_13
quote:
I'd certainly be entertained by you trying to.
I doubt it. It'd probably go right over your head along with everything else.
Your "apples to apples" comment makes that very clear.
quote:
You tried to use 139 mill for memorial day as a "bad" weekend for a holiday.
I didn't say it was bad. I used it, among other data points, to set a baseline for expectations.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:05 pm to Argonaut
quote:They're completely contradictory they way you presented them. You said:
The two ideas are independent of each other.
quote:You didn't make them independent here. You claim that IW and Deadpool ate into Solo and that it would have freer reign in December. But the trends you posted completely contradict that. December always has a huge movies (sometimes star wars itself), but you are talking about 18 consecutive years. There's no reason to think that simply putting it in December would have meant it grossed 170, especially if something else is coming: Aquaman and Mary Poppins being two of the huge ones already announced. Disney isn't going to put two huge properties out at the same time. They're producing fewer and fewer movies every year (12-15).
Of course it's a good movie. My only point is that it ate into Solo’s numbers, and it did.
A lot of people didn't think TLJ was a shitty movie. Even more aren't boycotting Solo because of TLJ. Supposedly, that includes you. Disney's biggest mistake was releasing in May, instead of December, and I think they realize that.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:07 pm to Argonaut
quote:What other data points?
I used it, among other data points, to set a baseline for expectations.
And this is perfect... You are sticking by your claim that a movie from 2007 making 139 million means that a movie in 2018 couldn't make 170 million???
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:09 pm to ell_13
quote:
What other data points?
Try reading the thread.
quote:
And this is perfect... You are stick by your claim that a movie from 2007 making 139 million means that a movie in 2018 couldn't make 170 million???
I didn't make that claim.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:13 pm to ell_13
quote:
They're completely contradictory they way you presented them.
No they aren't.
quote:
You didn't make them independent here.
I don't have to make them independent. An understanding of each point does that for me.
quote:
But the trends you posted completely contradict that.
No they don't.
quote:
Disney isn't going to put two huge properties out at the same time.
Yeah, no way they'd ever put out two movies a few weeks apart...
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