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re: Showtime Developing Comedy Series ‘New Money’ from Jemele Hill and Gabrielle Union

Posted on 11/24/20 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by Jay Are
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 6:20 pm to
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Best reviews in history.
Worst ratings in history.


You know who's also really into idiotic hyperbole?






Jemele Hill
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30261 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 6:33 pm to
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You know who's also really into idiotic hyperbole?


You. Pimp's not wrong. Critics will love it but how big is the target demographic that's going to watch this show? How many new money upper class black women do you know? This show won't find a large audience.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 6:49 pm to
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How many new money upper class black women do you know?


Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 7:47 pm to
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You. Pimp's not wrong. Critics will love it but how big is the target demographic that's going to watch this show? How many new money upper class black women do you know? This show won't find a large audience.


I didn't defend the show or Hill. And I won't. But I do know that critics very rarely care about comedies in their first seasons. One of the only ways this becomes highly reviewed is if it gets a second and third season to continue growing its voice, ala Insecure, Bored to Death, Silicone Valley, The Good Place, parks and rec, The Office, etc. Comedies take time to get things worked out. Those listed currently-beloved and later highly-reviewed shows started off with middling, unenthusuastic responses from critics.

Saying a comedy from Jemele Hill will be highly reviewed immediately because it's Jemele Hill suggests that other comedies have found similar instant critical success based on creative names attached, which hasn't yet been the case.

I'm sure you'll call a pretty basic analysis of the critical landscape "hyperbole", but your suggestion that I often use that specific type of figurative language might suggest you don't know what it means. So I'll feel confident that that previous poster used hyperbole in an attention-getting way that was ill-informed, and that you continue to not know what you're talking about regarding most things*.

(*example of hyperbole)
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30261 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:15 pm to
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I didn't defend the show or Hill. And I won't. But I do know that critics very rarely care about comedies in their first seasons. One of the only ways this becomes highly reviewed is if it gets a second and third season to continue growing its voice, ala Insecure, Bored to Death, Silicone Valley, The Good Place, parks and rec, The Office, etc. Comedies take time to get things worked out. Those listed currently-beloved and later highly-reviewed shows started off with middling, unenthusuastic responses from critics. Saying a comedy from Jemele Hill will be highly reviewed immediately because it's Jemele Hill suggests that other comedies have found similar instant critical success based on creative names attached, which hasn't yet been the case. I'm sure you'll call a pretty basic analysis of the critical landscape "hyperbole", but your suggestion that I often use that specific type of figurative language might suggest you don't know what it means. So I'll feel confident that that previous poster used hyperbole in an attention-getting way that was ill-informed, and that you continue to not know what you're talking about regarding most things*.


I didn't ask you about any of the bullshite you posted. I asked you specifically how large you thought the target demographic was and how many people you knew in that demographic. Both questions you failed to address in any way.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:26 pm to
Yikes, you are a self-important little flamingo, aren't you?

If Jemelle Hill released an audio tape of her passing gas while reciting excerpts from the biography of Lebron James, critics would line up ten deep to hail it as the essential cultural event of the year. It's a culture of phoniness that elevates and sustains itself through even more phoniness. The politics ABSOLUTELY inform the critical reception in EVERY aspect of this culture, and any honest person understands this. There is Progressive Correct Think and it is rewarded and there is Incorrect Think and it is ignored, buried or suppressed.

Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
83985 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 9:46 am to
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So it’ll be racist


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Jemele Hill and Gabrielle Union
I mean. . .yeah
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