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Re-watching "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" right now

Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:11 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:11 pm
Cliff Booth tearing arse home to his dog and his trailer through late 60's Hollywood will never get old to me. Just a fun, fantastic scene.


I don't have much else to add, I just frickin love this movie.

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:32 pm to
I honestly didn’t care for it the first time I watched it, but I knew there was something about the film I didn’t get. I was thinking our heroes were going to be on the run from the Manson Family after they killed Sharon Tate. I was impatiently waiting for that scene, and it didn’t happen... and then the ending was fricking epic. I knew I immediately loved the ending but I didn’t get it the first time around.

Second time though I kept my expectations in check and watched it for what Tarantino wanted me to see instead of what I wanted to see. It is in that light a masterpiece. It’s like the Big Lebowski where I was invested in the plot and what I know what happened and completely lost the substance for what he was going for. After Inglourious Basterds, it is my favorite Quentin Tarantino film. It’s just wonderful and the ending, holy shite. Watch this movie at least twice since what you’re expecting is not what you’ll get, and the movie is better off for it.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:40 pm to
I really love this movie. There's a few movies out there that just have a particular vibe that I'm into and this is one of them. The Big Lebowski and Inherent Vice are a couple of others. Maybe it's a lost California aesthetic that appeals to me.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:03 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:41 pm to

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Second time though I kept my expectations in check and watched it for what Tarantino wanted me to see instead of what I wanted to see. It is in that light a masterpiece


That's an excellent way to put it.
Posted by Coach Buzzcut
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:42 pm to
Cliff “killing” his wife scene was hilarious
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:43 pm to
Right. It feels like an homage to old Hollywood (and hell, maybe even pre-murder porn culture if you wanna go down that rabbit hole) more than anything else.

I would bet that the people who didn't enjoy it were probably unfamiliar with the Manson murders. Someone on this site put it best - that backstory sets this unspoken tension for the whole film.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:44 pm to
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Cliff “killing” his wife scene was hilarious





just got past that part

the goggles and the beer and the spear gun, just sitting there taking the bitch-fit
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:51 pm to
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I would bet that the people who didn't enjoy it were probably unfamiliar with the Manson murders. Someone on this site put it best - that backstory sets this unspoken tension for the whole film.


I’m not sure about that. The reason I didn’t initially love it is I was thinking “OK, get around to killing Sharon Tate so we can move the plot forward.” But of course that didn’t happen at all. It’s that expectation that ruined the film for me the first go-around even if I loved the ending. I immediately thought of Lebowski and my time watching that film and realizing the entire plot was total bullshite and then realizing that’s the point.

The Hateful Eight I didn’t care for and understood it immediately, but this film deserved the benefit of the doubt. Rewatched it two days later and it became one of my favorite films. It clicked then. It’s a movie that will make future filmmakers. Has everything so long as you temper your expectations on what you think it should be.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:53 pm to
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Right. It feels like an homage to old Hollywood (and hell, maybe even pre-murder porn culture if you wanna go down that rabbit hole) more than anything else.


It's definitely an homage to Old Hollywood. Tarantino re-created a lot of stuff from that time period for the film. Like Inherent Vice, and Fear and Loathing, it has that end of an age, on the cusp of a dark time feeling to it. Charlie brought an abrupt end to peace and love. But a lot of that was bullshite to begin with.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:59 pm to
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I would bet that the people who didn't enjoy it were probably unfamiliar with the Manson murders. Someone on this site put it best - that backstory sets this unspoken tension for the whole film.




I would bet .001% of people that saw this movie were “unfamiliar” with the Manson murders lol
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:03 pm to
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I would bet .001% of people that saw this movie were “unfamiliar” with the Manson murders lol


I agree in a way (willing to bet 20% aren’t aware the Manson Family murdered Sharon Tate specifically), but I think the majority of the films had this mindset getting impatient with putting off the murders that never happened:

This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 4:55 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:07 pm to
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I would bet .001% of people that saw this movie were “unfamiliar” with the Manson murders lol



I thought so, too, but the initial thread on this was full of people who didn't understand what was happening because they didn't know the specifics of the Manson stuff
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:07 pm to
Just got to Leo's scene in the trailer after he forgets his lines

god this is gold
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:12 pm to
You bring up a good point about expectations

I think production companies pumping out trailers have really disoriented people over the years

remember the ads for The Village? my god, we all thought it was gonna be top-notch horror because of the trailers

as a result, I despised that movie on first viewing
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:00 am to
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I honestly didn’t care for it the first time I watched it
I was the same way. It got boring to me. I watched it again last week and came away with a serious appreciation for it. This thread makes me want to watch it again.

The last movie I had a similar appreciation swing with was Wonderland (2003). I think Wonderland just had so many different story lines, I may have gotten confused, and put off by it, the 1st time thru.
Posted by TigrrrDad
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:31 am to
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remember the ads for The Village? my god, we all thought it was gonna be top-notch horror because of the trailers as a result, I despised that movie on first viewing


That’s my all time “not what I was expecting based on the trailer” movie disappointment. Jacob’s Ladder is another that comes to mind. But I love The Village now - made my son watch it when he was home over Christmas break.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:55 am to
Just got to the scene where Tex and the family get star-struck by "Rick frickin' Dalton" yelling at them
Posted by Audioman213
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:57 am to
Rewatched this on my birthday after about 12 bourbons. The movie is unbelievably good, first time I saw it I felt it dragged but on a rewatch you notice all the seeds planted and minor details that builds the plot. The vibe of life going well with its small quarrels and tasks/activities like going to watch a movie is how real life is before a huge tragedy. We obliviously live our life as if carefree until we’re met with a horrible ending we didn’t see coming. The brilliance of Tarantino is showing Tate going through these motions only for this expected ending to be subverted and her life to continue on carefree.

Incredible film, loved every bit.

“Anybody Accidentally Kills Anybody In A Fight, They Go To Jail. It’s Called Manslaughter.”


Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:09 am to
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Tate going through these motions only for this expected ending to be subverted and her life to continue on carefree.


This really struck home for me. That scene of her being genuinely overwhelmed by watching herself appear in a movie and just knowing the real-life conclusion of her story is sobering.

ETA: Her voice coming through the intercom at the end, saying "oh that's terrifying!" about the hippies trying to kill Rick

God, it's brutal in retrospect.

This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:12 am
Posted by schatman
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:08 am to
Leo should have won the Oscar for this role, not The Revenant.
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