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SEClint
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Peeves and Annoyances you have from older television shows?

When an episode revolves around a new guest character, and then you never see that character ever again nor are they mentioned in the series.

Also when the same actor plays multiple characters throughout different seasons of the show.

Little House on the Prairie and All in the Family are two shows that I love, but were notorious for both of those sins.

Someone working had to think, "our audience may recognize an actor and be confused", yet they still make the decision to do it.

What are some things about old school television that bother you?


UndercoverBryologist
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Also when the same actor plays multiple characters throughout different seasons of the show.


Really long running shows do this a lot, like Law & Order and NCIS. Though it is a little forgivable if they put in a few seasons in between so that it’s not immediately obvious.

Miami Vice has a pretty egregious example in the use of actor Martin Ferraro in the Trini DeSoto role in the pilot episode and the recurring role of Izzy Moreno just a few episodes later.


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Laugh tracks, literally unwatchable now


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Also when the same actor plays multiple characters throughout different seasons of the show.
That's still standard operating procedure, even on the best shows.

Sopranos: Fat Vito was played by the same actor who played the guy that Christopher runs out of the bakery before he shoots the counter boy in the foot.

Deadwood: Jack McCall (shot Wild Bill) and Francis Wolcott, two main characters, were both played by the same actor.

Law & Order: Too many to list, but Jerry Orbach showed up as a defense attorney before returning as a cop, Carolyn McCormick was a defense party girl witness before she came back as Dr. Olivet.


UndercoverBryologist
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Laugh tracks, literally unwatchable now


It’ll be a long time before I find Seinfeld, Cheers, or Frasier unwatchable. (Yes, they were filmed in front of an audience, but even then, there’s a lot of “sweetening” of the laugh track to give the desired laughter cue to the audience at home.)

BUT, there is an example of laugh tracks that I find particularly annoying, and it’s their use in single-camera sitcoms of the 60s and 70s.

It’s obvious that Andy Griffith and MASH weren’t filmed in front of a live studio audience, so where is the laughter coming from? It’s obviously canned.

(MASH was intended not to have a laugh track, but the network insisted. The DVDs have a feature to turn them off.)
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DaleGribble
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re: Peeves and Annoyances you have from older television shows?
My biggest complaints would be how many actors in the 70s that were playing someone in the military or some other character from the 1940s would still have their 1970s hairstyle.

I also didn't like when a show like Happy Days was supposedly set in the 50s but by the last few seasons, you really couldn't tell when it was supposed to be taking place.


Fewer Kilometers
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My biggest complaints would be how many actors in the 70s that were playing someone in the military or some other character from the 1940s would still have their 1970s hairstyle.

Happy Days started our pretty accurately, but once they switched to shouting punchlines in front of a live audience, the anachronistic hair styles crept in quickly.


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Laugh tracks, literally unwatchable now


Seinfeld and Chapelle’s Show are the only ones I can tolerate now.

Ricky Gervais laughing at Big Bang Theory


DaleGribble
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Happy Days started our pretty accurately, but once they switched to shouting punchlines in front of a live audience, the anachronistic hair styles crept in quickly.


Yeah. I don't really remember much about those last few seasons. But it seems like by the time that Ted McGinley joined the cast, pretty much everyone was sporting 80s hair and clothes...minus the lettermen sweaters.


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UndercoverBryologist
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Happy Days started our pretty accurately, but once they switched to shouting punchlines in front of a live audience, the anachronistic hair styles crept in quickly.


There’s also the increasing starpower and leverage of the actors to get contractual stipulations to limit the amount of make-up time and hair style change they would have to endure. Shortens the working day stress for people like Winkler and Howard.


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re: Peeves and Annoyances you have from older television shows?
Older tv shows? Even modern ones I find unwatchable if the casting is unrealistic - such as cop shows with gorgeous models as officers. Sorry, that doesn’t happen. Or cop shows where live rounds are exchanged during every episode.

Courtroom dramas where every case goes to trial and every trial is filled with drama and undisclosed revelations. If your only familiarity with courtrooms was based on tv shows , you might think that judges actually use gavels.


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Happy Days started our pretty accurately, but once they switched to shouting punchlines in front of a live audience


Happy Days was OK until Chuck Cunningham disappeared. He carried that show.


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gumbo2176
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Also when the same actor plays multiple characters throughout different seasons of the show.


That happened a good bit on the old "Andy Griffith Show".

They had an actor named Alan Melvin who played a worker in a grocery store, a farmer selling his vegetables roadside, an undercover cop, an Army recruiter and a house detective in a hotel in a big city.
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Sopranos: Fat Vito was played by the same actor who played the guy that Christopher runs out of the bakery before he shoots the counter boy in the foot.



Forgot about that one. Nice example. Also Col. Potter had previously played a crazy general earlier on MASH. My other pet peeve is that everything that takes place in the "country," including MASH, looks exactly like the hills outside of LA. Man it really is dry as hell in Korea.


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UMRealist
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I don’t know how people ever thought shows with laugh tracks were funny.


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bad93ex
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Seinfeld and Chapelle’s Show are the only ones I can tolerate now.

Ricky Gervais laughing at Big Bang Theory


Big Bang Theory is what I was hinting at and you picked it up. Allegedly I should be within the target demographic for that show but I can’t watch more than 3 minutes of it.


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re: Peeves and Annoyances you have from older television shows?
I believe the last few seasons (without Richie), was supposed to be in 60-62ish. I seem to remember them celebrating the turn of the decade.


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UndercoverBryologist
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Big Bang Theory is what I was hinting at and you picked it up. Allegedly I should be within the target demographic for that show but I can’t watch more than 3 minutes of it.


That’s less so because of the laugh track and more so that it is a pretty lame (and dare I say offensive) caricature of nerd culture. I remember someone describing it as “nerd face.”
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gumbo2176
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Courtroom dramas where every case goes to trial and every trial is filled with drama and undisclosed revelations.


Perry Mason was the worst for this tripe. It almost never failed that he'd get some simp on the witness stand to confess to the crime and get his client off in the last 10 minutes of every episode.


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They had an actor named Alan Melvin who played a worker in a grocery store, a farmer selling his vegetables roadside, an undercover cop, an Army recruiter and a house detective in a hotel in a big city.


First one I thought of





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