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re: One Year Ago Today, Rian Johnson Broke The M/TV Board
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:51 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:51 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I took issue with you saying that comparing Holdo's attack to Kamikaze's was flawed.
You took issue with my use of the phrase "kamikaze attack,
It is actually a pretty good comparison.
She left with the sole purpose of doing what she did as part of a military strategy she wanted to employ in a desperate situation against an overwhelming foe.
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:52 pm to Roaad
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We presume hyperdrive collisions have occurred MANY times.
Of course they have. That's why the meltdown about this ruining Star Wars is even more interesting.
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Still begs the question as to how this was only discovered as a weapon right now.
Not really, but even if it did, that would only mean that Star Wars ruined itself within the first 30 minutes or whatever.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:55 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Pretty damn close
Do you have an "advanced degree" in "kamikaze attacks?"
quote:When did this happen? Because you clearly lack desire to engage the topic to which I have just provided you a proper education.
It's not every day I get to put a self-proclaimed history expert in their place.
I accept your "Neat" as a proper acknowledgement that you have received the information and will apply it.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:55 pm to Roaad
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I took issue with you saying that comparing Holdo's attack to Kamikaze's was flawed.
Right, and it is, as I've already explained.
The current tangent we've been stuck on has been you complaining about my use of the phrase "kamikaze attack."
You couldn't refute my initial point, so you moved to discredit me with that nonsense, and it predictably did not work.
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She left with the sole purpose of doing what she did as part of a military strategy she wanted to employ in a desperate situation against an overwhelming foe.
Well, that's not true, either. She left with the intention of acting as a decoy to lead the FO away from the rest of here personnel, and only made the decision to sacrifice the ship in that manner when the transport ships were being destroyed.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:57 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Nope
Of course they have. That's why the meltdown about this ruining Star Wars is even more interesting.
quote:So you agree that a single scene in the 8th movie can ruin an entire movie series?
Not really, but even if it did, that would only mean that Star Wars ruined itself within the first 30 minutes or whatever.
Hell of a thing. . .
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
I could have told you this was coming after the shitheap that was “the force awakens”.
In fact, I did
In fact, I did
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:57 pm to Roaad
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Pretty damn close
So no.
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When did this happen?
It's been cumulative.
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Because you clearly lack desire to engage the topic to which I have just provided you a proper education.
Let's do it. You even admitted that the phrase I used didn't happen until "well after the war."
Correct me if I'm wrong, history degree, but we're currently "well after the war," right?
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I accept your "Neat" as a proper acknowledgement that you have received the information and will apply it.
Do what you like. I can't change that.
I'll explain that "Neat" is my way of letting you know that I dismissed your nonsense for what it was worth.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:59 pm to Roaad
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Nope
Yup.
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So you agree that a single scene in the 8th movie can ruin an entire movie series?
Nope. I plainly stated that if we accepted that argument, it was ruined over four decades ago and Rian Johnson isn't the one who did it.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:03 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:What?
It's been cumulative.
quote:Th comparison was to Japanese Kamikaze pilots and Holdo.
et's do it. You even admitted that the phrase I used didn't happen until "well after the war."
quote:Was during WW2 after WW2?
Correct me if I'm wrong, history degree, but we're currently "well after the war," right?
Because Japanese Kamikaze pilots were during the war.
quote:I accept what it is. . .you accept what you want it to be.
Do what you like. I can't change that.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:05 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:But it didn't become a weapon until Rian Johnson, so you are conceding THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT.
I plainly stated that if we accepted that argument, it was ruined over four decades ago and Rian Johnson isn't the one who did it.
The point of contention didn't exist until Rian. So if that single point ruins the first 30 mins of TNH, as you say. . .then you are saying that one point from Rian broke SW.
ETA: You strike me as one of the Trolls with the feminine need to have the last word. So do your thing, son.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:15 pm to Roaad
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What?
It's a word that means to accumulate over time.
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Th comparison was to Japanese Kamikaze pilots and Holdo.
Wrong. Again.
The comparison was to the Japanese crashing planes into ships.
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Was during WW2 after WW2?
Because Japanese Kamikaze pilots were during the war.
Neat.
Here is what you said:
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The term kamikaze was not used to describe generic suicide pilots until well after the war.
That is a correct statement and is where you admit, whether you realize it or not, that I've been correct about that point all along. It would've been easier if you had just admitted that from the start, but it's fine.
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I accept what it is. . .you accept what you want it to be.
That's an odd way of describing what happened over the last few pages.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:20 pm to Roaad
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But it didn't become a weapon until Rian Johnson, so you are conceding THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT.
Wrong. Again.
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The point of contention didn't exist until Rian.
Of course not. That's because this isn't really about hyperspace as a weapon for most of you. If it were, you'd have done what a few did several pages ago. You'd have admitted I've been correct all along.
It's really an emotional reaction because Rian Johnson "ruined your childhoods." TLJ sucked arse, but it wasn't because of weaponized hyperdrives, or even lightsabers getting tossed and Princess Leia Poppins. It sucked because the writing and directing were shite, and most of the acting was terrible.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:31 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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It's really an emotional reaction because Rian Johnson "ruined your childhoods."
It blows my mind that grown men were actually making this claim. That’s a pretty fragile childhood if it can be shattered by one shitty star war movie 30 years after the fact
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:34 pm to fr33manator
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I could have told you this was coming after the shitheap that was “the force awakens”. In fact, I did
And I bet you got crucified for that too. I couldn’t believe how much love TFA got on this board.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:46 pm to Big_Slim
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It blows my mind that grown men were actually making this claim. That’s a pretty fragile childhood if it can be shattered by one shitty star war movie 30 years after the fact
For sure. I mean, there might be some real issues for those types of people. How fricked do you have to be in the head for TLJ to destroy your childhood?
I get that it's a shitty Star Wars movie. It's certainly not the first shitty Star Wars movie. It's not even the first shitty Star Wars movie in its trilogy. I'd argue that TFA was nearly as bad as TLJ, but it gets barely any of the hate that it deserves.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:47 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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For sure. I mean, there might be some real issues for those types of people. How fricked do you have to be in the head for TLJ to destroy your childhood?
It destroyed my interest or "fandom" in Star Wars.
I visit forums less frequently, keep up with comics a lot less, stopped collecting new lego sets and read the new books slower outside of Thrawn. Also, have no interest in ever seeing Episode IX at this point. Solo from what I heard wasn't bad but I have no interest in seeing anything on the screen.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:08 pm to LSU Coyote
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It destroyed my interest or "fandom" in Star Wars.
Did you miss the prequel trilogy?
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:57 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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you miss the prequel trilogy?
The prequels aren't nearly as bad as tLJ. They are terrible for very different reasons.
I don't like them but also think Revenge of the Sith isn't complete garbage.
Edt: Post Revenge of the Sith I found myself actually getting into the expanded universe. Things like what is in the unknown regions, what inhabits the 7-9 other galaxies and old rebuplic stuff really is where my interest lay.
TLJ shitt on the rules of how the universe works in the Star Wars universe. I still don't understand tracking in hyperspace. Everything made little sense inside of the say "laws of the universe". Let's not get started with the dice.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 6:08 pm to LSU Coyote
It’s been like 9 pages of feeding a troll and you people still don’t get it. Carry one. But feel free to ignore people. Rational people know what’s up.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 6:19 pm to LSU Coyote
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They are terrible for very different reasons.
But they're still terrible.
There's nothing in TLJ that should "ruin" Star Wars for you if the PT didn't.
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TLJ shitt on the rules of how the universe works in the Star Wars universe.
Like what? Don't say hyperdrive weapons because I already picked that apart.
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