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re: Official WandaVision Episode 5 Thread NO SPOILERS PAGE 1
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:09 pm to Scoob
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:09 pm to Scoob
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Falcon and Bucky
She was in hiding with these two, Cap, and Black Widow between Civil War and Thanos' arrival. I think there's at least some level of connection there.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:30 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:Bucky's been in Wakanda until Infinity War, correct? And the rest, at least Wanda, have not... remember the reaction when Wanda hit the battle field.quote:
Falcon and Bucky
She was in hiding with these two, Cap, and Black Widow between Civil War and Thanos' arrival. I think there's at least some level of connection there.
So scratch Buck off the connection list.
Now, Sam (Falcon), he was around her. He was one of the guys coming to rescue her during the attack at the beginning of Infinity War, so I take it that those 4 hung around together (counting Cap and Black Widow).
Cap and BW are gone, while Sam and Wanda blipped out. So they both might be in a more secretive mindset, since the last thing before Thanos, they both were being hunted by the government.
They didn't have the time to acclimate like Clint did during the blip, and don't have families to reunite with like Clint and Ant Man.
I wonder if there's some connection to the next show also being 'renegades', with Sam and Bucky.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:20 pm to Oates Mustache
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He's at least aware that he's real but doesn't understand it. It's really crazy if you think about it.
Doesn't that describe all of us? Perhaps Vision is the most human of all....
deeeeeep thoughts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:46 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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But again, the premise of SWORD picking up Vision is an illogical premise at this point. The Avengers would have, based on their previous actions and moral code, kept him with them.
And done what with him? Just store him there? You don’t know what happened in the 5 years after Thanos got the Braveheart treatment up until then. You think that the remaining people just want his “corpse” hanging out at HQ in a storage box? Plus SWORD said he was kept in a secure facility PER HIS WISHES.
Y’all are severely overthinking the unimportant details.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:50 pm to imjustafatkid
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She was in hiding with these two, Cap, and Black Widow between Civil War and Thanos' arrival. I think there's at least some level of connection there.
She was always sneaking off with Vision for some rounds of hide the phaser.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:01 am to TheeRealCarolina
I really think this ends with Vision self sacrificing himself in order to “save” Wanda from herself. That just seems like a very “Vision” thing to do given what we know of the character.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:36 am to STEVED00
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I really think this ends with Vision self sacrificing himself in order to “save” Wanda from herself. That just seems like a very “Vision” thing to do given what we know of the character.
God I hope not. He's a fantastic character with perfect casting. He's also a character that the fans haven't burdened with added agendas or levels of social importance. There's a long list of Marvel characters I'd kill off before Vision.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:16 pm to Scoob
Possible spoiler warning or leak warning on why falcon and winter soldier are connected to Wandavision...
As seen in a YouTube video: FandWS was suppose to be released before Wanda. Zemo seems to be the villain of FaWS. Wandavision intro had the Grim Reaper helmet in it. Grim Reaper and his bro, Wonderman, hate Tony Stark for ruining their technology company. Zemo obviously not a fan of Stark and neither was Wanda at first. Zemo prob wants the brothers technology to make another Ultron. In early comics Zemo sends Wonderman to infiltrate the Avengers but WM stops that and actually becomes friendly with the Avengers and has a love interest with Wanda...
A lot to speculate but FaWS could have been the into to WM and GR which is why we seen GR helmet in the Wandavision intro.
As seen in a YouTube video: FandWS was suppose to be released before Wanda. Zemo seems to be the villain of FaWS. Wandavision intro had the Grim Reaper helmet in it. Grim Reaper and his bro, Wonderman, hate Tony Stark for ruining their technology company. Zemo obviously not a fan of Stark and neither was Wanda at first. Zemo prob wants the brothers technology to make another Ultron. In early comics Zemo sends Wonderman to infiltrate the Avengers but WM stops that and actually becomes friendly with the Avengers and has a love interest with Wanda...
A lot to speculate but FaWS could have been the into to WM and GR which is why we seen GR helmet in the Wandavision intro.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:09 pm to Rossberg02
Patiently waiting for the episode 6 thread....
Posted on 2/11/21 at 5:40 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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And done what with him? Just store him there? You don’t know what happened in the 5 years after Thanos got the Braveheart treatment up until then. You think that the remaining people just want his “corpse” hanging out at HQ in a storage box?
Jesus fricking Christ...they fricking created him, and likely , continue working on him...or better yet keep his body from falling into the wrong hands, like a government entity thats was chasing them down for years after Civil War.
Storing him in Avenges HQ is a better solution than the alternative.
And once again, they had weeks before you saw them again. They wouldn’t have left Vison in Wakanda. Full stop.
This is a fairly easy concept to grasp.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 5:53 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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Jesus fricking Christ...they fricking created him
At some point, couldn't we just agree that we'll probably get an answer to some of this in the next three weeks...
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:09 pm to Rossberg02
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Wonderman to infiltrate the Avengers but WM stops that and actually becomes friendly with the Avengers and has a love interest with Wanda...
You are missing a key point in the 70s/80s comic book narrative- the Vision's human mental engrams were encoded from the believed-to-be-dead Simon Williams, aka, Wonder Man.
There was a time when the two of them considered each other step-brothers of a sort.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:12 pm to BRich
Maybe Zemo wants to use Simon’s intelligence to resurrect Vision...
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:28 pm to tigers25
In my simple world ( not spoilers, just my personal current theories):
1) Wanda wearing her dark red outfit and speaking her accent again is a huge clue. One of the biggest clues. Last time we saw/heard this was AoU. When her brother was killed.
2) Her powers were created by the mind stone. I’m wonder if the mind stone made her developed a split personality when her brother died, which happens in real life. She replaced her love for Peter with her love for Vision. And her other personality wanted a perfect world with Vision, thus she lost the accent and all other ties. In other words, she started creating this perfect fantasy world right after AoU.
3) When the Mind Stone creates Wanda’s split personality, the new the big bad villain comes into play. He’s the one that created the reality or alternate universe or pocket universe aspect of this. Again, Mind Stone doesn’t alter reality (disclaimer: I know Captain Marvel somehow became the most powerful entity in the universe, by being near a wave blast from the Space Stone, which makes no sense). The Ether (Reality Stone), alters reality. Or at least the perception.
4) When Vision breaks his co-workers spell, the co-worker says it’s like his mind was being controlled. The power of the Mind Stone.
5) Maybe it’s been answered, but it was said in last weeks episode that Wanda stole Visions corps 9 days before Episode 5.
4) It was discussed by SWORD and others, the other characters in the various sitcoms are real people. She didn’t create these people. So, is X-men Peter a resident of Westview?
So what does it all mean? Hell if I know! I’m just enjoying the ride!!
My personal geek out “get the frock outta here”.., Prof. X’s son Legion, David from the TV show, is manipulating Wanda!
My overall theory, based on how Phase 1 and 2 played out, The Mind Stone created a new personality to protect Wanda after her brother died, the power was noticed by an extremely powerful inter dimensional bad guy (Mesphysto), who’s using his pawns (the wizard/warlock guy that possessed her in the comics) to manipulate her into creating a new reality
1) Wanda wearing her dark red outfit and speaking her accent again is a huge clue. One of the biggest clues. Last time we saw/heard this was AoU. When her brother was killed.
2) Her powers were created by the mind stone. I’m wonder if the mind stone made her developed a split personality when her brother died, which happens in real life. She replaced her love for Peter with her love for Vision. And her other personality wanted a perfect world with Vision, thus she lost the accent and all other ties. In other words, she started creating this perfect fantasy world right after AoU.
3) When the Mind Stone creates Wanda’s split personality, the new the big bad villain comes into play. He’s the one that created the reality or alternate universe or pocket universe aspect of this. Again, Mind Stone doesn’t alter reality (disclaimer: I know Captain Marvel somehow became the most powerful entity in the universe, by being near a wave blast from the Space Stone, which makes no sense). The Ether (Reality Stone), alters reality. Or at least the perception.
4) When Vision breaks his co-workers spell, the co-worker says it’s like his mind was being controlled. The power of the Mind Stone.
5) Maybe it’s been answered, but it was said in last weeks episode that Wanda stole Visions corps 9 days before Episode 5.
4) It was discussed by SWORD and others, the other characters in the various sitcoms are real people. She didn’t create these people. So, is X-men Peter a resident of Westview?
So what does it all mean? Hell if I know! I’m just enjoying the ride!!
My personal geek out “get the frock outta here”.., Prof. X’s son Legion, David from the TV show, is manipulating Wanda!
My overall theory, based on how Phase 1 and 2 played out, The Mind Stone created a new personality to protect Wanda after her brother died, the power was noticed by an extremely powerful inter dimensional bad guy (Mesphysto), who’s using his pawns (the wizard/warlock guy that possessed her in the comics) to manipulate her into creating a new reality
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:41 pm to Darkknight
Excuse the mistypes and numbering. Hate typing on the phone...
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:44 pm to Darkknight
I took all the alarms going off at the SWORD base camp right before QS showed up as that someone breached the perimeter and entered Westview.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:58 pm to STEVED00
I figured it was when Wanda walked out carrying the drone.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:12 pm to Darkknight
My bad. Forgot the alarms went off when the doorbell rings. Maybe the alarms were because of a power surge?
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:38 pm to Rossberg02
Or a power spike? They never say what the alarms are for.
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