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re: OFFICIAL "The Wire" M/TV Board rewatch thread (current discussion starts ~p. 53)

Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:56 pm to
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and we should all delete our comments b/c of spoilers


It's not going to work if you're quoting the spoilerish part, Jake.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:04 pm to
already handled that part
Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:14 pm to
Episode 11 late to the party thoughts:

That police recording is damn tough to listen to. That Police Commisioner is worthess. Burrell – “she has a girl/daughter?” lmao

Said earlier, more I watch the more I like Rawls. Still an a-hole though, kinda like Jimmy. Rawls and Daniels giving Jimmy the truth. Jimmy tried putting the screws to Levy

Lester is a bad mother fricker when it comes to police work. Homicide was handling their business as well (Bunk and Jay).

B&B are some hard core killa’s but they are some smart, rational baws. Little Man went bye bye. Dee thought he was gonna to, crying lil a baby. WeeBey fish: Kimmy and Jezebel lol but he loyal to the cause as well as Savino.

Herc and Carver taking them some spending money. Whoever said it earlier, Prez is somewhat to blame for Wallace. Figure he would have recognized his voice or the board.

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Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:25 pm to
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Lester is a bad mother fricker when it comes to police work.


and smooth with da ladies "Protect and Serve"
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 5:55 pm to
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Whoever said it earlier, Prez is somewhat to blame for Wallace. Figure he would have recognized his voice or the board.

I don't know if I buy into that. How would Prez know his voice? And besides that, almost all of those calls between Wallace and Poot would've immediately been disconnected and marked non-pertinent.
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 6:07 pm to
Not saying directly but more like indirectly.

Then again I assume he knows they stashed Wallace by his grandma. Prez been listening to the tap, so I figure he had the voices down.

Didn't even Wallace go to their hole in the wall office, or maybe he was at homicide.
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:13 pm to
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Didn't even Wallace go to their hole in the wall office, or maybe he was at homicide.


just homicide, the kid that lost his eye, thanks to Prez, was down there.

Scratch that, Wallace was down there with Daniels before Daniels takes him to the country, but i don't think anyone else was there or at least Prez wasn't
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 9:28 am
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:07 am to
Levy is by far the biggest POS on the show. Far worse than any gang banger or dirty cop.
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:29 am to
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Levy is by far the biggest POS on the show. Far worse than any gang banger or dirty cop.


Agreed, he's basically counseling them to kill the security lady they paid off in D's trial and any other "loose" ends.
Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 9:08 am to
Episode 12 my thoughts:

Levy is no doubt a big POS. B&B trying to clean up the mess from the wire. Give it to Dee, he tried to protect Wallace but he knows what’s about to happen.

Bodie trying to do his thing, it’s the game even though Wallace is his boy. Taking Wallace to get some food before they drop him, damn. Poot stood tall.

Burrell and his IAD buddy get on my nerves. frick them, kiss arse MF’s!! Don’t want a brother to get the job done. Daniels wasn’t scared of Davis or Burrell, showed some balls. And gave Burrell the salute on the way out, loved it.

As hard core as String and Avon are killing folks, they are calm and rational and try to think things thru.

Where Wallace String???? WHere Wallace at?

I take it Troopers don’t usually pull MF’s over like they did Dee without some notice from local police
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:17 am to


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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:34 am to
Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:40 am to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:06 pm to
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Daniels wasn’t scared of Davis or Burrell, showed some balls. And gave Burrell the salute on the way out, loved it.


Davis says he doesn't take money from drug dealers and Daniels just looks at him and says "Good"
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:21 am to
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You don't think he's addicted? He never leaves his bed, doesn't go to work, and is begging his friends for ten dollars so he can get his next fix.

He may not be a strung out addict like Bubs or Johnny, but he's definitely addicted IMO.
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We can revisit later.


Coco, forgot to get back to this, but the reason i didn't think Wallace was addicted was because when he comes back from the country he seemed back to normal "This is me yo, right here", wanted to get back in the game. I did notice when Daniels is taking him to the country, Daniels notes he has signs of withdrawal, but tells him he'll be alright in a day or 2. Maybe im just arguing semantics, but to me an "addict" doesn't just shake it in a day or 2.

One other thing on Wallace, he comes back and D says he'll put him on the money after he tells Avon and Stringer he's out of the game and to let him be. I know he tries to hint to Wallace to stay away, but why doesn't he just flat out tell him, look you need to lay low and stay out of the game and refuse to let him back in any capacity for his own good? Does he then feel guilty when he questions Stringer, "String, where's Wallace? Where Wallace at" and realizes Wallace is dead? I do think D sees a little of himself in Wallace. I agree with the earlier discussion that the difference between them is D the famil they were born into. D's fam was always running the game and Wallace's mom was a drunk.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:36 am to
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Wallace was addicted was because when he comes back from the country he seemed back to normal "This is me yo, right here", wanted to get back in the game. I did notice when Daniels is taking him to the country, Daniels notes he has signs of withdrawal, but tells him he'll be alright in a day or 2. Maybe im just arguing semantics, but to me an "addict" doesn't just shake it in a day or 2.


Heroin addiction is highly complex. He was snorting and he was "hooked" - meaning he was doing it compulsively. That's why he was showing mild signs of withdrawal. Most folks might not have noticed it. But, he wasn't shooting up anything like therapeutic doses - yet. He wasn't a full-blown junkie, but he was clearly headed that way.

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One other thing on Wallace, he comes back and D says he'll put him on the money after he tells Avon and Stringer he's out of the game and to let him be. I know he tries to hint to Wallace to stay away, but why doesn't he just flat out tell him, look you need to lay low and stay out of the game and refuse to let him back in any capacity for his own good?


Goes back to the opening scene. He wants to play. You have to let him. It's America, man. And, like Dee, it is literally all he knows. Dee does see himself in Wallace - a smart kid who's trapped in this urban nightmare. But, Dee is powerless to do anything about it.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:56 am to
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Goes back to the opening scene. He wants to play. You have to let him. It's America, man. And, like Dee, it is literally all he knows. Dee does see himself in Wallace - a smart kid who's trapped in this urban nightmare. But, Dee is powerless to do anything about it.


But D knows Avon and Stringer will kill him, that's why he tells Avon to leave him be. He could give it to Wallace straight, rather than just hint to him he should go back to school or something.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:03 am to
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But D knows Avon and Stringer will kill him


Sure.

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that's why he tells Avon to leave him be.


Because that's all he can do.

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He could give it to Wallace straight, rather than just hint to him he should go back to school or something.


Wallace is a smart kid. He knows what the hints mean. I'm not sure he believes it. Regardless, like Dee, Wallace is trapped, too. All he knows is the pit.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:40 am to
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Wallace is a smart kid. He knows what the hints mean


does he?

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I'm not sure he believes it


definitely didn't see it coming from his n@#$%z, Bodie and Poot. I found that scene much more intense the 2nd time around. When he's looking for the kids and then they corner him, I knew it was coming but was like, oh, man. Bodie was much more reluctant than i remembered. Poot having his girl make a call so they can find him, then Da Bunk recognizes him, "shite"
Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:44 pm to
I dont think Wallace knew it was coming either. They even took him for hot dogs and hanging out before. He was even looking for the kids when they got home. Wonder where Poot took them? fricked up they killed him right there.

When he got back from the country, Dee put him on the money. He also told Wallace -" If anyone ask, you in the game for life, you stand tall and play it hard for your bro's. No snitching, no 2nd thoughts!"

So I take it Wallace thought he was straight from that point.

Yeah Dee had an idea of what was coming and his pleads to Avon went on deaf ears obviously. But B&B went behind Dee's back knowing he wouldnt do it and try to keep it from him. Probably because they knew Dee would snitch.

Seen was sad/intense cuz they grew up together. Bodie seemed like he had 2nd thoughts, hands trembling until Poot said do it. Dont think Poot liked doing it as well but he had to put his boy out of misery.

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