re: Official Avengers: Endgame SPOILERS/Discussion/Reviews Thread

I also question how much of a place gamora has going forward. She wasn't with the guardians at the end and it looks like thor is taking her spot

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I’m 99.9% sure that the next time we see Thor in a MCU movie he’ll be ripped again.

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Not only that but that line about being who he is instead of what he’s supposed to be is complete bullshite.

His people, Asgardians, are in the absolute worst position they’ve ever been in thousands of millennia and they don’t have the benefit of having the killed by thanos asgardians returned to them after Tony Stark’s snap and Thor is just up and going to leave to dilly dally around the universe with a souped up bunch of intergalactic outlaws?

The people of Asgard went from this peak of glory......





To this little shithole fishing village that reminds me of a Cocodrie or Grand Isle with mountains.



Asgardians deserved better and they still deserve better and Thor’s father entrusted him to lead them to a better future and even said as such in Thor’s dreams and when he died.

And Thor left them because he wanted to go have some fun?

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It had zero effect on my enjoyment of the movie but just be honest... it was not organic and forced as frick.

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I don't know. Similar thing happened in IW with the whole "she's not alone" part. I don't think it's outlandish that the women would gang up in a fight like this either.

It was certainly a cheesy moment and very forced. With that said, it had no impact to my viewing experience.

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I’m just using the logic established by the previous films

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You were arguing about Cap using Mjolnir, and Tony creating a gauntlet that allowed the harnessing and use of the Infinity Stones.

Ok, let's look at that logic- Mjolnir first. Whosoever is worthy, shall be able to wield the power of Thor...
Worthy. Thor movie, he's cast to Earth and unworthy, because he's arrogant and prideful. He becomes worthy when he commits to helping and teaching others, and ultimately sacrifices himself.
Steve Rogers' skinny little arse jumped on what he thought was a live grenade, he is the epitome of humility and sacrifice. Super soldier serum gives him physical strength, but he's ALWAYS been worthy.
Mjolnir moved in Age of Ultron. You're not "just a little" worthy, you either are or you're not. It moves just a hair, and he stops and says "ok" because he doesn't want to show Thor up. It's not in his character to do so, he knows he can, and lets it go then... he has to use it in Endgame, and he does.

Tony and the Gauntlet... who/what is Tony Stark? A genius, who focused first on weapons (controlled energy), then devoted to the creation/development of energy-harnessing tech. His ARC reactor is a clean fusion reactor small enough to fit inside his chest cavity, but can power the suit for a long time; could power his building for at least a year. That's a skyscraper with a lot of power consumption.
In Avengers, Thor hits him with a lightning bolt, the reaction is... the suit powers up to 475%, instead of getting fried. That's harnessing energy.
His latest suits are nanotech, with all the abilities of the prior ones, but able to morph into whatever he desires- need a bigger gun? A big thruster to catch a spaceship leaving orbit? He can do it.
He makes the gauntlet, it's killing him right away, but it dampens the effect enough that he can wield it once for use. That's completely within his character, as he has already studied one stone enough to integrate it into Vision. All six long enough that he doesn't immediately disintegrate, that's all he needed.

Steve returning all 6 stones, how does he get them all back in the right form (scepter, tessaract, etc)?
Seems we're overlooking something kinda obvious. You can return them in any order, since you can travel back and forth in time in the Quantum Realm. You should be able to travel space in the same manner, since both are compressed and folded... they did that earlier.
And keep in mind the Time Stone- he's bringing that back to the Ancient One, who's aware of why they needed it.
Do that first, and maybe ask her advice on how to reform the tessaract; pretty sure that if it can be done, SHE would be able to. And that doesn't change her arc, as she's already watching multiple realities, dimensions and timelines. She's aware of the dangers of altering time, meaning she has some working knowledge of it. It's not an impossible quest or even a selfish one, he's seeking to restore order after taking them to save the universe. That's her job too.
He probably bounced the idea of staying in the past off her to get feedback, and learned what needed to be done to make it work (give up Captain America, live an anonymous life, stand in the shadows when he might feel he could help).

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But she killed her in the present timeline. IMO, the time travel was all in the same universe, but like Tony said earlier, it doesn't change the present. Going back and killing baby Thanos doesn't do shite for the present, remember?

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No shite
because they're in different realities

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No shite
because they're in different realities

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Then how is Gamora there but Black Widow can't be brought back?

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That's what we're wondering!
Thor was able to bring back the hammer why can't they bring back scarjo?

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Did anyone say they couldn't bring her to the present from the past?

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That's what we're wondering!
Thor was able to bring back the hammer why can't they bring back scarjo?

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, gotcha. Read the first ten pages or so then jumped to the end.

Only thing I can imagine is Black Widow is unsalvageable in the present because her death is responsible for current timeline. You can bring Gamora back because the present soul stone was created from her death?

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So everything about Cap coming out of the ice and being a part of the Avengers still happened. 

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Yes. The only way the last scene made sense is if Cap lived his life in a parallel reality in the past than came back to the original to say goodbye