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re: Official Avengers: Endgame SPOILERS/Discussion/Reviews Thread
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:45 am to Cap Crunch
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:45 am to Cap Crunch
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Oh yeah, I almost forgot to complain about that 15 minute Audi commercial before the movie started. What the frick was that, Disney?
Probably in the actors contracts as well.
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:45 am to ell_13
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Uh. I didn’t have that.
I did, it was lame.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:46 am to ell_13
For real? Maybe it was just a cinemark thing.
After all the trailers were done, some douche showed up on screen taking about how great Audi is then transitioned to some shitty commercial featuring Captain Marvel. It pissed me the frick off
After all the trailers were done, some douche showed up on screen taking about how great Audi is then transitioned to some shitty commercial featuring Captain Marvel. It pissed me the frick off
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:46 am to Sentrius
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The perfect balance between that and fat/funny thor was his portrayal in Ultron where he wasn't some dark and gloomy guy but he wasn't a blonde bodybuilder version of Spiderman and his big running mouth.
Infinity War Thor is the best Thor. The wisecracks are inadvertent and he's all about causing some damage.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:47 am to Cap Crunch
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For real? Maybe it was just a cinemark thing.
Maybe so, because that's where I watched it, too.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:47 am to TheIrishFro
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I've been wracking my brains on this the whole time and I think I have it figured out though I'm not exactly sure. Tell me if I'm wrong because it's confusing. Cap was supposed to go back in time to return the stones to exactly from where they took them. He was supposed to return the stone and immediately comes back using the Pym particles. This keeps their timeline correct because the stones haven't changed locations by putting them back.
However instead of returning the stones to immediately keep the timeline intact, he decided to stay in the past. He didn't immediately return the stone. He lived a full life with Peggy. After decades she died. So he went back in time to the point when the stone was taken and put the stone back and completed what he was supposed to do originally. Thus the timeline is intact again but he's old. He returns back as an old man satisfied that he got the dance and life with his love and the timeline is intact.
There is no "correcting" the timeline. The core MCU timeline has already occurred. It can't be altered. Any entry to any previous point in that timeline effectively creates a branched reality. If there are minimal changes that new branched reality could proceed in a parallel manner with the core MCU timeline, but the film clearly establishes that making alterations in the past does not affect the current timeline. Returning the stones simply preserves the newly formed alternate realities from plummeting into chaos.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 10:52 am
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:47 am to Cap Crunch
I saw it in a Cinemark. 
I’m actually out of town with my wife and kid and caught a late showing last minute here in the woodlands on my own.
I’m actually out of town with my wife and kid and caught a late showing last minute here in the woodlands on my own.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:47 am to ell_13
quote:I agree with this.
I love Korg and Ragnorok Thor.
quote:he certainly was better in this than IW. But i still dont get how he was hurt after using the gauntlet. He mentioned it was gamma radiation, of which it was created, and the whole premise is that the more you hurt hulk the more powerful he gets. I guess they kinda didnt do that as Thanos wiped him but you doing explain that as he can be knocked out.
Ruffalo was awesome in this compared to Ragnorok and IW. Mellow Hulk is a good balance as long as we eventually get him showing a power increase. They pulled back on him some from the original Avengers.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:49 am to Cs
I just thought of something. If Ancient One is right and removing infinity stones from a timeline risks plunging that timeline into chaos, what will happen to our main timeline now that OG Thanos snapped them out of existence?
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:51 am to ell_13
quote:because i dont need to. your theory was shattered right after you posted it. moving one now.
nd for the last 3 posts regarding this, you’ve said nothing of substance to argue against it soooo....
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:51 am to ell_13
Huh, idk then. I think the guy said it was a special thing for the premiere last night, so I kinda figured it was being shown at all of them last night.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:51 am to Cs
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There is no "correcting" the timeline. The core MCU timeline has already occurred. It can't be altered. Any entry to any previous point in that timeline effectively creates a branched reality. If there are minimal changes that new branched reality could proceed in a parallel manner with the core MCU timeline, but the film clearly establishes that making alterations in the past does not affect the current timeline. Returning the stones simply preserves newly formed alternate realities from plummeting into chaos.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:51 am to RedPants
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I just thought of something. If Ancient One is right and removing infinity stones from a timeline risks plunging that timeline into chaos, what will happen to our main timeline now that OG Thanos snapped them out of existence?
The main timeline is good because the evil caused by the stones has been undone. That's the overarching answer that we're going to get imo.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:51 am to RedPants
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However, they crapped all over their own rules by having old man Cap showing up in the present reality. It never should have worked that way and ruined their own explanations of time travel. They sacrificed plot for a nice send off for Steve. It's a shame.
I’ve just accepted that the quantum realm let’s them jump to any point in space time, in any reality in the multiverse they want. I know it’s not explained like that, and feedback loops would happen if it’s not done correctly(and it isn’t), but let’s just say any potential feedback loop would create a new branch of multiverses, so multidimensional branches are possible or something.
The time travel stuff will never be resolved completely, since you know, it’s not a thing. We just have to accept it and let them bend the rules for the convenience of story telling.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:54 am to CarRamrod
quote:I missed that. How?
your theory was shattered right after you posted it. moving one now.
It’s not a theory that old Rogers lived in a different reality than the one we are familiar with. The question is simply how he got to that bench. I don’t think that’s an important question and it certainly doesn’t ruin the movie. You just have to believe he had some mechanism (which exist in the reality we know) also exists in his. That shouldn’t be difficult to believe or even understand.
ETA: And if you want a simple explanation, one exists in the sorcerous/sorcerer supreme. If Old Rogers finds her/him after living his happy life with Peggy, he could send him to that spot at that time in that reality. We know they have that power.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 11:01 am
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:04 am to ell_13
quote:kinda is.
It’s not a theory that old Rogers lived in a different reality than the one we are familiar with.
quote:i agree
The question is simply how he got to that bench
quote:so what is that mechanism. facts about time/reality travel you have to have a device to guide you through it(he had). you need Pym particles (he had). And to return to your original time/reality, you need a Quantum Drive and it would need to be turned on.
You just have to believe he had some mechanism (which exist in the reality we know) also exists in his. That shouldn’t be difficult to believe or even understand.
This is shown at first with Scott coming back when the rat turns on the Van Quantum Drive. IT happens when the whole team comes back after the Stone missions. It happens when Thano's ship comes to 2023. So Cap needed a quantum drive to come back to there. and the one they had they were standing at and he sure didnt come through it.
ETA: you could assume he came though Hank or Scott van Drive but that just lazy, again.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 11:07 am
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:05 am to Jester
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Mine clapped every time anything happened. It was kind of annoying.
Chearing throughout in my theater. Hoops and hollering from a few folks when the girl power thing happened. Not a soul cheared when Thanos punched Captain Marvel and she didn't flinch, evening though there had been chearing for the other heroes who were fighting him and for her when she jumped in and grabbed the gauntlet on his hand. One of the folks who cheared the girl power charge even let out an audible "huh?" Was a very noticeable silence.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 11:19 am
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:07 am to CarRamrod
Read my edit. We’ve known about the multiverse since Dr. Strange. And the magic and stone that exists there are enough to move throughout the multiverse.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:13 am to Cs
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Returning the stones simply preserves the newly formed alternate realities from plummeting into chaos.
What’s always confusing about this is that these alternate timelines plunging in to chaos not happening is built upon the concept that you can entire the timeline at any point. This means a full unaltered timeline(from that branch you just created heading towards chaos til the end of time) has to exist for you to pick a point to join, otherwise you have nothing to alter.
But they treat these alternate timelines as if they are then “put on hold”, and their main timestream doesn’t advance, until the “correction” happens. Which makes no sense. It breaks their own rules of time travel, that the initial jump was based on.
The only thing that makes sense is that the instance a new timeline is created, it immediately and permanently creates a new and unimpeded path to the end of time. Instantly.
Imagine each new timeline is like creating a new fork in a river. But that new branch doesn’t slowly get to the ocean in a man made trench. It can’t be stopped and diverted later down the line, by building a damn in the a fresh trench of dirt so only one path to the ocean ever existed. Each time someone travels in to a new timeline, they have to be traveling in to some point on river, a river that reaches the ocean.
Long story short, in order to save one timeline, they fricked up many others.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:14 am to ell_13
quote:i understand that but to just assume that lazy.
Read my edit. We’ve known about the multiverse since Dr. Strange. And the magic and stone that exists there are enough to move throughout the multiverse.
Also this is a serious question, i only remember Sorcerer Supreme and Strange use the Time Stone to view time, right? Heck she even didnt use it right to see Strange give the time stone away. I guess Strange traveled to Dormammu but did he do that with the time stone or did Dormammu open that portal.
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