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re: Obsession surpassed Star Wars at the daily box office on Wednesday…
Posted on 5/31/26 at 9:55 am to sgallo3
Posted on 5/31/26 at 9:55 am to sgallo3
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They changed from producing woke slop to making great shows
What? Is your brain cooked?
Ahsoka is the definition of woke slop and that's the only active live-action Star Wars TV show. They turned the Mandalorian (a great premise) into Bo Katan Girl power and burping baby yoda. The new Starfighter movie that has promise is supposedly being co-opted to launch the new Rey trilogy written by the guy who did mediocre x-men movies.
The slop is outweighing the good content at this point and it's not even close.
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 10:18 am to sgallo3
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producing woke slop to making great shows
Andor was entertaining, but wokeness was running throughout that show. I was rooting for the empire the entire time
The showrunners literally said it was a take on a “trumpian world”, ie trying to say the protests in the square were the purple haired libs and Trump is the evil empire.
Don’t make wokeness, don’t make children’s movies with no story. Easy. I’ll continue rooting for their movies to bomb if they make Starfighter about Rey
This post was edited on 5/31/26 at 10:19 am
Posted on 5/31/26 at 10:29 am to Proximo
This is a bad take in search of a political point. If by “woke” you mean it was a show about fighting tyranny, then I guess you’re right.
I never felt a metaphor for Donald Trump.
Just because some purple hair is trying to impress their purple-haired friends with how deep they are in an interview doesn’t mean it actually happened. It’s the same thing as getting mad about Lando being a pansexual in the Solo movie because a homo asked the producer and he was just trying not to offend.
I never felt a metaphor for Donald Trump.
Just because some purple hair is trying to impress their purple-haired friends with how deep they are in an interview doesn’t mean it actually happened. It’s the same thing as getting mad about Lando being a pansexual in the Solo movie because a homo asked the producer and he was just trying not to offend.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 10:32 am to thenza
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never felt a metaphor for Donald Trump.
You’re being intentionally obtuse if you can’t see that’s what they were doing
there’s an article in Empire describing their intentions in making the show Both her and Diego Luna talked to Gilroy about his intentions and that informs what she says to the interviewer
This post was edited on 5/31/26 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/31/26 at 10:39 am to Proximo
Sure, but…
1. They are stupid in that belief.
2. They did an amazing job crafting a story about fighting authoritarianism.
3. Just because they’re stupid enough to think America is Sheev’s Empire doesn’t mean you have to view it that way. I’d agree if they used real world figures like basing Dedra on Marco Rubio or Andor on Keith Olberman.
4. Andor is perfect and I adamantly disagree with any and all criticisms of it.
1. They are stupid in that belief.
2. They did an amazing job crafting a story about fighting authoritarianism.
3. Just because they’re stupid enough to think America is Sheev’s Empire doesn’t mean you have to view it that way. I’d agree if they used real world figures like basing Dedra on Marco Rubio or Andor on Keith Olberman.
4. Andor is perfect and I adamantly disagree with any and all criticisms of it.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 10:50 am to thenza
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doesn’t mean you have to view it that way.
That’s the problem. When these showrunners or actors describe their motivation in detail to the media I have a hard time watching it without thinking about what they said. Or that they’re “pissing off the right people” as it relates to another movie coming soon I would’ve paid to see otherwise
I still enjoyed it mostly but it does have a message. They can’t just make a show without running their mouths about current political events and alienating their audience
Posted on 5/31/26 at 11:00 am to Proximo
Tentative hypothesis:
Maybe it’s our fault too. We live in a world now where we frequent message boards and social media and hear these things that taint our enjoyment.
Like, the sequels are garbage. I don’t need to hear from the writers to clearly see that Holdo was a lesbian liberal empowerment fantasy. She really gave it to that stupid male pilot. It’s clear as day. Then, I read about the author and she’s a purple-haired man-hater who just inserted herself.
But I don’t see anything like that in Andor. However, I can watch video clips of similar people saying they had similar intentions with Andor. But if it doesn’t come across in the same way, did it really happen? Or am I just mad at a perceived message that my outside knowledge has shaped into a more narrow meaning than what is actually portrayed?
I’m not directing this message at you. I pretty much agree with your thoughts on Star Wars. Just not THIS Star Wars.
Maybe it’s our fault too. We live in a world now where we frequent message boards and social media and hear these things that taint our enjoyment.
Like, the sequels are garbage. I don’t need to hear from the writers to clearly see that Holdo was a lesbian liberal empowerment fantasy. She really gave it to that stupid male pilot. It’s clear as day. Then, I read about the author and she’s a purple-haired man-hater who just inserted herself.
But I don’t see anything like that in Andor. However, I can watch video clips of similar people saying they had similar intentions with Andor. But if it doesn’t come across in the same way, did it really happen? Or am I just mad at a perceived message that my outside knowledge has shaped into a more narrow meaning than what is actually portrayed?
I’m not directing this message at you. I pretty much agree with your thoughts on Star Wars. Just not THIS Star Wars.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 11:03 am to Proximo
People can interpret anything to have a message. Good lord. Have some faith in yourself and quit being offended by everything. I could make a youtube video on how schindlers list is offensive to jews. That doesnt mean it was intended to be.
There are more important things in life than trying to nitpick and find things to complain about. We'll all be dead in 50 years most likely and none of our opinions on Andor will matter. Id rather just enjoy it for being a good show than make myself miserable being personally offended by how i could interpret it to have a greater meaning on my personal voting record.
If you are gonna have an issue with Andor for its underlying tone you should also have the same issue with the original trilogy with its anti-populism undertones.
But you probably watched that before you started taking every movie as a personal mesaage directed at you
There are more important things in life than trying to nitpick and find things to complain about. We'll all be dead in 50 years most likely and none of our opinions on Andor will matter. Id rather just enjoy it for being a good show than make myself miserable being personally offended by how i could interpret it to have a greater meaning on my personal voting record.
If you are gonna have an issue with Andor for its underlying tone you should also have the same issue with the original trilogy with its anti-populism undertones.
But you probably watched that before you started taking every movie as a personal mesaage directed at you
This post was edited on 5/31/26 at 11:15 am
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:15 pm to DMagic
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The argument per distribution sources is that the Jon Favreau movie didn’t lose audiences to Backrooms and Obsession, it’s just that the core Star Wars subset fandom for this IP is finite.
Trying to appeal to gays and liberal women was never going to go the way the people in their company think.
You just have to assume its all deliberately hyper-politicial.
Joker 2 was made almost exclusively to "own the chuds".
The end of The Boys, killing homelander was all about "owning the chuds".
Hollywood deliberately makes these shows to be pro-leftwing and anti-rightwing.
Star wars fills that same role. The casting, directing, producing, etc. is clearly another "it pisses of the right people" moment.
I don't know how people dont see it.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Trying to appeal to gays and liberal women was never going to go the way the people in their company think.
Film Critic Chris Gore said a year ago that trying to turn Star Wars and Marvel from a boy brand into a girl brand would end up being the most costly decision in movie history
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If tweet fails to load, click here. I don't know if it was overtly political. I just think they misread the tea leaves in a catastrophic manner
2020 happened, and they thought the "modern audience" was going to be the next big demo to court
They, like ESPN did in 2015, read Twitter and Reddit and thought those groups represented shifting thoughts and mores.
ESPN had a come to Jesus moment, Disney will have to have that at some point.
I am hoping Filoni will be that guy. We'll see
This post was edited on 5/31/26 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:25 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I don't know how people dont see it.
It's either that they pretend they don't understand or it's denying the existence but later pivoting to why that thing is good.
The Boys is about as on the nose as you can get but once you start noticing, you can't help but see it in a majority of what you watch.
Regarding Star Wars, the brand is so weak now you have to wonder if it was anything but deliberate. Someone needs to get control and stop focusing on childless disney adults as the target market.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:07 pm to TheNameIsDalton
Obsession having an all time box office run and one of the more unique and fun runs for a small budget movie in literal decades and yall are in here having the same rehashed Star Wars culture war argument that’s been overcooked on here for going on a decade
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:35 pm to sgallo3
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People can interpret anything to have a message. Good lord. Have some faith in yourself and quit being offended by everything
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Looks like I was right.
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:24 am to RollTide1987
I finally went and saw Obsession due to all the hype.
It's a good horror movie. And very few movies can be as unnerving as it was. Amazing acting by the two lead characters.
With that said I have been inside a movie theater less than 5 times in the last decade.
I don't know that Obsession was worth the hype, maybe the bar for new movies is just so low that any reasonably good movie is a standout.
It's a good horror movie. And very few movies can be as unnerving as it was. Amazing acting by the two lead characters.
With that said I have been inside a movie theater less than 5 times in the last decade.
I don't know that Obsession was worth the hype, maybe the bar for new movies is just so low that any reasonably good movie is a standout.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:25 am to Proximo
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I was rooting for the empire the entire time
I thought I was the only one who felt this way, though in my case it was the First Order in The Last Jedi.
For perspective, I saw “Episode IV” as a 4 1/2 year old. I don’t remember watching the movie, only walking from the parking lot to the theater. ETA: What I do remember, clearly, is the amount of space Star Wars occupied in my imagination as a boy.
I hate Star Wars now.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 7:07 am
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